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Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16, 2023 at 2:31 p.m.
Thread: Post TDL-23 Rangers - 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jimbo1119</b></div><div>So after wheeling and dealing and pissing away Krav and a 1st….you’re gonna take your 1 shot at the Cup with Carpenter at 2RW?</div></div>

LOLZ - the Carpenter slot was an oversight. With Gauthier returning from IR, I would slot him in on 3rd or 4th wing, and either Vesey, yes Jimmy Vesey, retains his top six role. That third line would be best in league (assuming Laf returns to some level of his 2023 playoff form) - interchangeable with the 2nd (and most likely sees more 5v5 time than the second. Gauthier has been showing top 9 flashes so yeah i feel comfortable with that forward lineup. Look, I also don't think this is our "1 shot" or "last shot." We have to move Panarin or Trouba over the next two years to sign a boatload of RFAs, but that core and Igor make the NYR competitive for years to come, even with the loss of a 1st rounder this year.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16, 2023 at 2:21 p.m.
Thread: Post TDL-23 Rangers - 3 Meier
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RangerRan18</b></div><div>Valid points, although I think the TDL market last year was exceptionally hot. Kravstov is not a 4th liner, granted he's not a proven top sixer yet. SJS would be able to sign him cheaply and would undoubtedly slot him into their top 9, if not six. Your point about the low first rounder is valid. Rangers unwilling to part with Othmann, but let's say the package also included our 2024 first and a D prospect or Will Cuyllee (so a 23 1st, a 24 1st, a former 10OA playing in his first NHL season, plus a 2nd round prospect. Would that get it done? I think so.</div></div>

Also, important to note, the Copp trade was for two conditional 2nd round picks (one that converted to a first because we made the ECF), Morgan Barron (a 2nd round prospect equivalent like Will Cuyllee), and a 5th rounder. So the above package I lay out is substantially better (to reiterate: two 1sts, a former 10OA that still projects as a top 9, and 2nd round propect equivalent). I would be willing to bet that the deal would end up being the above but instead of two 1sts, a conditional 2nd (that converts to a first).
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16, 2023 at 2:14 p.m.
Thread: Post TDL-23 Rangers - 3 Meier
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>It doesn’t have to be Laf, the point of saying that is that the offer is far off. Kravtsov is a 4th liner and the 1st is likely late. That doesn’t get a top line rfa winger. Andrew Copp got more last year as a ufa and he had never scored 30 goals or 40 points even in a season at that time</div></div>

Valid points, although I think the TDL market last year was exceptionally hot. Kravstov is not a 4th liner, granted he's not a proven top sixer yet. SJS would be able to sign him cheaply and would undoubtedly slot him into their top 9, if not six. Your point about the low first rounder is valid. Rangers unwilling to part with Othmann, but let's say the package also included our 2024 first and a D prospect or Will Cuyllee (so a 23 1st, a 24 1st, a former 10OA playing in his first NHL season, plus a 2nd round prospect. Would that get it done? I think so.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16, 2023 at 2:02 p.m.
Thread: NY Rangers 2024-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mvp13</b></div><div>The cap is projected to be $87,500,000 in 24-25 at this current time. Trouba is not getting traded. Pesce is worth nearly double what you signed him for.

What an absolute grim outlook to assume Vimmy Jessey will still be on the 2nd line in 24-25, though... if you are dumping Trouba off, it better be to improve the team, not make it substantially worse as is this team</div></div>

Bumped the cap up to that level. Thank you. So Trouba or Panarin has to be traded before 2024 summer if the Rangers have any designs on signing Lindgren, Kakko, Schneider (all things they should do). I wouldn't count a Trouba trade out from either NYR mgmt standpoint or willing partners (assuming some salary retention) - he's been playing hurt - 2022-23 Trouba is worth $6M / year. Per your point, I've added $2M to the Pesce deal. Maybe it's more like 5 yr/ $5.5M. --- I've also moved Othmann up to the 2nd line (assuming he exceeds expectations) - Vesey above him was an oversight. Maybe there's a scenario where we trade Panarin with retention, freeing us up to add a proven top six winger under $7M. The Trouba dump is essential to sign Lindgren, Schnedier and Kakko.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16, 2023 at 1:41 p.m.
Thread: Post TDL-23 Rangers - 3 Meier
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>The CBL passes on the Gavrikov trade.

Rangers doesn't have the cap space for Timo Meier long term so he's a rental, And that offer would be easily beaten by teams like New Jersey and others.

You can do retention here. And you're over the cap by some $5,600,000 good luck with that.</div></div>

Actually, not really. By the TDL, Rangers will have accumulated $6.-7M in cap space to add players. If you net these trades out (it is under that number). Yes, he's a rental, but any team that acquires him will be able to recoup assets next summer by trading his RFA rights. I'm assuming you meant CBJ rejects trade. What then will he command? a first and a second. They would have to consider a package that includes the 23 2nd and Cuyllee and Zac Jones.