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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 27, 2022 at 6:47 p.m.
Thread: Move up in Draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Old_Snowman</b></div><div>Based on points alone, yes he does have more value than Gurianov. But when you factor in d zone brain farts Hronek tends to have, usually one a night. His value goes down to a 3rd line forward. I overall like Hronek but I think he's overvalued by Wings fans. Gurianov is a big winger who's good on the forecheck and can score. He was a big part of Dallas 2020 cup final run.

Jiricek will be a much better player than Hronek and a better 2nd pair Defenseman who's actually more like a 1st pair but he's have to overtake Seider on the top pair. If he did that'd be incredible for the Wings. Likely scenario is he'll be similar or slightly less than Seider on the right side. Still could be a top pair right D on most teams one day. Detroit would have Seider + Edvinsson as top pair. Walliner/Johansson + Jiricek on the 2nd pair. That's a hell of a future top 4. No room for Hronek and trading him for a forward is a good option. If Detroit could acquire Stankoven for Hronek I'd be thrilled but I doubt Dallas would let go.</div></div>

As a 2nd rounder, Hronek is playing above his potential. He is 14th in points in his draft class, only behind 5 other D the likes of which include McAvoy, Serg, Fox, and Chych. Fox is the only one of those listed who’s played less games than Hronek.

Hronek is for sure a defensive liability, I think that changes with a higher quality partner which he has yet to have. But he is for sure worth more than Gurianov. That is a lost trade 1 for 1 and not happening. Even if G was a center.

Jiricek will also not immediately play in the show.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 27, 2022 at 6:30 p.m.
Thread: Move up in Draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Old_Snowman</b></div><div>That's realistic of what it would cost to move into the top 5. If you want the top 3 you're trading away an impact roster player instead of the 2nd rounders. It would likely be 8th + Vrana for the 3rd. Not interested. They are the Washington and St. Louis picks as well so mid 2nd rounders or later. Detroit has had so many draft picks in the past 4 drafts and they will not have roster spots for all these guys to play. This is now about quality of quantity. Get the player you want vs having 3 you settled on.</div></div>

I think he’s more saying it shouldn’t happen, which I’d agree with especially for a D. I see no issue with the value.

Also I get you are justifying moving Hronek to draft D here, but Hronek has more value as a 2nd pairing offensive D than Gurianov.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 26, 2022 at 8:45 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 26, 2022 at 12:11 p.m.
Thread: push
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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2022 at 8:59 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 23, 2022 at 4:04 p.m.
Thread: Keeping the picks and prospects
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JhonnyCanuck5</b></div><div>Good with Larkin and Bert getting an extra year each.

I’d like Husso but I think someone is going to overpay him so I went with an older guy.

Also agree about 2C but again I think other teams will overpay Strome, Trochek, etc. I’d be happy with a trade for D Strome in Chicago or something similar.

Cole is probably more likely but I’d rather overpay Edler for a year if possible.</div></div>

There’s always the potential for Husso to be another Greiss anyways.

True, my hopes are Stevie shoots for a B or C option we can nab while everyone is going for the A option (probably Kadri).

100% I’d rather have Edler, content with Cole or whoever else. Honestly see whoever we get as a plug-in for next free agency anyways.