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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 22, 2022 at 7:54 p.m.
Thread: mtl draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LAkingsfan77777</b></div><div>Lebrun mentioned Detroit as a possibility, and Detroit Hockey Now is rocking with it and why it could make sense.

No offense but I think Lebrun knows 10x more than you do about what's happening around the league.

also, I already said what Detroit is giving up is way too much but the idea behind Petry to Detroit is not a hot take and is not a stupid idea as it is a real possibility. Besides between what u think the team needs and Yzerman I'm totally going w Yzerman since he's built the team that's currently fighting for a 3 peat.</div></div>

No one knows what Stevie is thinking. He is one of if not the most tight lipped GM, and holds his staff to the same standards. Lebum listed Detroit as a ‘possibility’ likely due to their need for a LHD which makes sense. It’s educated speculation tho, that’s it.

This trade is absolute hot garbage anyways. And Detroit is not at all in a position to trade futures even for a need and especially not for an aging defensemen.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 22, 2022 at 10:47 a.m.
Thread: larkin after dark
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangle</b></div><div>neither of those are a sign and trade.

larkin is good but he's not elite.</div></div>

I meant sign and trade vaguely, whether a literal sign and trade or close to it. You can’t honestly say that when Boston signed Lindholm, within 24 hours a max extension happens, that there wasn’t a extension discussion prior to the trade. You don’t know that and if I’m a betting man given it happened within 24 hours, I’d wager it was discussed. Just as you are basing your argument and trade value on assumptions I am as well. And go take a look at the other Wings’ fans comments, you’ll hear a bit of the same from Wings fans. Dude countered with 5x 1sts.

No he is elite, he’s not franchise nor top of the big dogs.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 22, 2022 at 9:29 a.m.
Thread: Working til August
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Koskinen_The_Great</b></div><div>Penguins don’t have the cap and will be buying at the TDL. If you do the math. The Habs taking 1.25M a year saves the Wings from taking 2.25M a year in retention instead of 1M as the math shows here. So being pointless is actually quite wrong.</div></div>

But we’re paying for retention when there isn’t a need to. And this trade again screems Leddy 2.0 where I am extremely surprised we recouped the pick for him. One more season of the same, Petry loses all value he has especially with his age. I find it hard to believe he’ll perform better with the Wings and recoup the pick or receive a slight upgrade. Not seeing it as a slight upgrade tho with Zad+a 2nd+a 3rd being traded for Petry especially considering I don’t feel that is accurate of Petry’s value.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 22, 2022 at 9:13 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 21, 2022 at 2:17 p.m.
Thread: wings 23-24
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>erh1991</b></div><div>1. Or larks enjoys playing at home, wants to save the team some $$ to win a cup in the future.
2. For sure, i agree. i set this up as 22-23 so i wasnt sure how to sign him prior
3. not sure how much more hronek returns. What were you thinking the return should be?
4. This would be a year after a new coach. Giving Stevie enough time to see what he needs.
5. i dont think so
6. Pasta is definitely more of a long shot
7. He would be a 2nd year pro at this point &amp; Ras looked like a for sure 3rd line center towards the end of last season, I agree a little high for a 4C but a former top 10 pick that steve might see some upside in
8. Yes. Does not impress the big man
9. We'll see how the D shakes out.</div></div>

1. I really hope he takes a home-team discount! He’s making below what he should make atm though and I just really see the change in agent in combination w/ his recent media comments (about the team sucking) as leading to a higher $ AAV. Term is spot on tho.
2. I figured that was the case! Stevie and Bert’s media comments have them shooting for an extension this summer, and unlikely but hopefully it’s not a 1 year extension.
3. I’d think a 1st round pick is in play. Teams pay a premium for top 4 D, Lindholm could be a comparable and Hronek is younger and put up more pts.
4. Yep! I’m essentially hoping that trade doesn’t come to fruition.
5. We’ll see how he performs. With a slightly improved team, it should be better than 3.31 GAA and .901 Sv%. However, those numbers don’t warrant 3x5.25M in my opinion.
6. Agreed, game for either tbh.
7. Doubtful the 8OA will play pro their first year but I guess we’ll see! Personally thought Ras played better on the Wing, but his big body is needed in front of the net which is easier at C. Him and Jost would be an interesting 3rd line.
8. 👍
9. True
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 21, 2022 at 12:33 p.m.
Thread: wings 23-24
1. With his change in agency, Larks will probably ask for more.
2. Assuming these are offseason moves, Bert will either be traded or extended prior to the TDL. He is not going into the offseason as a UFA with the Wings.
3. Hronek returns more.
4. Wait and see how Zadina does under a new coach, if it’s a bit of the same for sure move him.
5. Ned’s contract is too rich
6. Pasta and Weegar can just as easily receive that contract+term from a contending team. $ amount will need to be higher to attract them and probably more term needed for Weegar.
7. While I agree we probably go center in this draft, doubtful a 1st year pro center plugs into line 2 immediately. There is no C depth behind him and Ras is definitely not filling the 2C spot, consider exploring an alternative center. Also 3x3 for a 4C is too rich.
8. Curious, why are you trading Veleno? Is it with the assumption he provides a bit of the same again next year?
9. 23 FA is much deeper than 22. Better D to be had than Jensen, but also with the Wings defensive depth there may not be a need for another depth signing.
Forum: Fauteuil - DGJun. 21, 2022 at 10:40 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 18, 2022 at 11:34 a.m.
Thread: Go for it
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeymecka</b></div><div>Thank you! None taken. Waiting for deals to be made from experienced ACGMs. Looking at the deals right now anyone clearly knows they are crap. With so many experienced people around here it’s a great opportunity to sort out the real value but also take a look at where the emotional fan value aspect of everything is.</div></div>

‘Experienced ACGM’ is an oxymoron. You won’t find much of that on here and every fan base overvalues their players. It’d be cool if CF could adopt some sort of value trade system like with fantasy football.

If you’re looking for a player to acquire from DET, try Hronek if your intent is D or Bert. Seider and Raymond untouchables, they’d listen to offers on anyone else likely.