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Thread: DUCKS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheJoeMan</b></div><div>All three of those trades make the Ducks worse. We don't need to get rid of Kesler so badly that we'd have to trade away a first rounder, nor would that be worth it to Vancouver to carry that cap hit for six years. And Vancouver is just going to give us Tanev and Markstrom on top of that? Yikes.

I keep seeing so many trades with Shore and/or Rowney for a low-level draft pick. Why? These two are quality, value players. I mean if we HAVE to move them, which we don't, we better get better value for them. Rowney was one of the few bright spots this season. Shore was solid too. Good PKer, provided decent offense and makes less than 3 mil.

And I wouldn't trade Terry for Fox straight up, especially without a contract, let alone with Sherwood thrown in. And who's to say he'd even sign here? He's clearly a player who wants to choose where he goes and we are never a team that these players want to sign with.</div></div>

Agree 100%. With all the new additions of rookies on ELCs, the Ducks aren't in a cap crunch and don't need to dump Kesler, especially if it will cost them that much. Devin Shore is a consistent, versatile 30 point player, and could earn a 3rd by himself at the trade deadline. Giving him up for a full season with an RFA expiry should command more than that. And lastly, DO NOT TOUCH TERRY! Especially in this case. I know Fox is a highly touted prospect, but he's never played in the NHL, whereas Terry has shown real promise and looks to be a cornerstone of the rebuild.
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Thread: Quacked Up
Forum: Armchair-GMApr 17 at 12:28
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Forum: Armchair-GMApr 17 at 11:35
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>Sure and CBJ didn't just pound your lineup up and down the boards and all over the ice for 4 games.


Barré-Boulet, Point, Kucherov, (he's what 5'11 if that), Johnson. That's four of your top 6 who are small players.

Then you wonder why the other team comes out and beats on your lineup. Yeah I'm sure you will win a lot of games in the regular season. But if you haven't figured it out by now, come the playoffs the game is different. You better be ready to hit and be hit. This is two years now where TB was simply out physicaled up and down the ice.

Speed and skill only goes so far when the other team is willing to plaster you all over the boards.</div></div>

I get that guys like Foligno/Anderson/Dubinsky make the Blue Jackets appear more heavy, but the only way Columbus pounded the Lightning up and down the boards was through effort and puck control. CBJ is actually a slightly lighter and younger team than TBL and the Lightning out-hit the Blue Jackets 144-117 in the series. Four of CBJ's Top 6 (Duchene, Atkinson, Panarin, and Dzingel) are all under 200lb, and their entire top line is under 6'0". Also, according to CapFriendly's depth charts, both teams have only 8 skaters above 200lb, so it's not like Columbus had an arsenal of big guys that would crush all of the small Lightning players.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not completely arguing against big players. I just don't get the argument that they need to be in the top 6 over more skilled players. Weight can be beneficial for defensemen (all of Tampa's D-men are over 200lbs by the way) and for bottom 6 players, who can't always rely on skill and need to win board battles or lay a hit to knock the opposition off the puck. With the way the league is now, most of the biggest point producers are smaller, and big players who can also score are becoming few and far between. I know the Lightning's big-3 didn't live up to expectations, but Panarin, Duchene, and Atkinson drove the offense for the whole series. If you gave the same minutes to the heavy bottom 6 guys like Foligno, Dubinsky and Jenner, I can guarantee you they would not have been able to out-score the Lighting.

TL;DR: The Lighting are actually bigger and hit more than Columbus did. Big players do have a place in hockey, but unless they also have the skill, they should not be in the top 6.