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Forum: Armchair-GMJun 22 at 11:18
Forum: Armchair-GMJun 13 at 2:03
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>As a Hawks fan. I tend to agree with <a href="/users/Ryminister_27" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Ryminister_27</a> that Schmaltz is a winger. It's one of the reasons he was sent to AZ...at the time the Hawks needed a #2C pretty badly. Then they got the #3OA pick and drafted Dach so boy oh boy things have changed.

I hear you're point on Hawks fans vehemently disagree on Strome's value. This push back comes from literally one thing. Elliott Friedmann sent out a Tweet and spread the rumor that Bowman's shopping D Strome and in his opinion the cost was not prohibitive. That's literally it. Nothing more...a tweet. Then this site went crazy with trades which I fully understand.

The reason Hawks fans push back is because he had a down year last year...NO arguments from me. That down year was due to (2) factors...A.) He got injured for ~10 games and B.) when he came back he played on the wing for some ungodly stupid reason. That dropped him from a .88ppg to a .66ppg. So here's the beef us Hawks fans have. We can admit Strome had a down year, BUT when we see Cirelli's career year of .65ppg and Schmaltz's career year of .64 ppg....it's a touch pill to take. It's using our admission of a down year to somehow say he's worse that guys who's career years are worse than his down year despite clearly understandable reasons. He's NOT a winger!

With that said, I don't want to ignore Cirelli's defensive abilities. I do think that make Cirelli more valuable, BUT if anyone's thinking....well Strome plays with Kane....... Ok Fine, Cirelli played with Stamkos and Kuch a whole lot too.

take a look at the charts below. Even in Strome's down year...the metrics support his play.
<a href="https://public.tableau.com/profile/bill.comeau#!/vizhome/SKATR2019-2020/SKATR" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://public.tableau.com/profile/bill.comeau#!/vizhome/SKATR2019-2020/SKATR</a></div></div>

exactly what I was talking about.

But according to <a href="/users/stan_bowman" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@stan_bowman</a> I'm just a "Leafs troll" and he thinks I know nothing about any other team because we disagree so much. LOL .. I work in hockey and know what I'm talking about. But thanks for the reassurance.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun 13 at 2:01
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TanSor</b></div><div>OK let me simplify it for you. Say they trade Killorn (the best of their $5M players IMO). That gives them $10M in space with 15 contracts. If the Wild offer Sheet Cirelli $7M for 6 years that I've mentioned now 3 times that I'd happily sign him to, they'd have $3M in cap space to re-sign Sergachev and Cernak, plus fill 4 more roster spots. How do you propose they do that if none of their players waive?</div></div>

I can read.. and as I've said multiple times.. they can move more contracts. It's really not rocket science. Move Killorn, could likely convince Gourde to waive to go to his hometown of Montreal and they need scoring, (there's another $5M of space), could likely easily convince Coburn to waive just by saying he wouldn't get any ice time (there's another $1.7M of space) .. so with just those 3 deals moved they free up $12M of cap. &amp; there's also no guarantee Cirelli would even sign in Minnesota. Why would he? A team on the downward trend that's not likely to contend for awhile, versus signing for a bit less to stay in Tampa in the sun and playoff for a legit contender year after year? Tampa's players have bought it. Stamkos signed cheap. Kucherov did. Point did. Hedman did. There's plenty of reason to believe that Cirelle would too to stay put and help the team win. Then they fill the rest of their roster out with ELC's like they've been doing. Cal Foote could make the jump. Mitchell Stephens and Carter Verhaeghe are good, cheap depth options. They have Boris Katchouk, Taylor Raddysh, Matthew Joseph (who's played some NHL games) all in the minors on cheap deals that can make the jump and fill bottom 6 roles. There's plenty of answers that involve not losing Cirelli.

Is that simple enough for you?
Forum: Armchair-GMJun 13 at 1:48
Forum: Armchair-GMJun 13 at 1:39
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TanSor</b></div><div>You sound so sure about Schmaltz, but like I said if they think Hayton is ready for a big role then I think moving a center makes sense.

How the hell can Tampa match an offer sheet when they have $5M in cap space with 15 players signed? Everyone says they can just move a big contract but all of the players that they should move have full NTC's. Saying they'll move one is way easier said than done. If the Wild offered $7M for 6 years there's no way Tampa can match that.

Yeah I think we could get more as well but Blackhawks fans vehemently disagree.</div></div>

Like I said, Schmaltz is more of a winger. He's brutal in the faceoff circle and more effective when he can use his speed down the wings. They'll move him to permanent wing when Hayton and Dvorak are ready full time. Plus Schmaltz is on a good deal so they'll be keeping him. I am pretty sure about that.

Just because Tampa has little cap space now, doesn't mean that's how it'll be always. People on here seem to forget that. They'll prioritize who to keep and who to move. A good young 2way centre like Cirelli will likely be high on the keep list. Guys like Johnson, Gourde, Killorn, etc. can easily be moved for decent value to clear cap space by the time next year starts. &amp; remember that teams are allowed to go 10% over the cap in the off-season so they can match any reasonable offersheet and then move cap around after. Only way a team gets him is to either overpay by an offersheet or make a trade with Tampa for him. They won't let him walk to an affordable offersheet