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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 26 at 9:38 a.m.
Thread: Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GolfBall</b></div><div>Respectfully I disagree. Karlsson is a great player who wants out and has a boat anchor contract. He played great last year and not so great with health issues prior. At full cost it's a huge gamble no one will take. If Murray stays healthy it's a 1 year hit for a good goalie. If he doesn't it's LTIR money. Liljegren has good potential. Niemela and Hirvonen are no cost sweeteners who might work out. This trade gives the Sharks flexibility.</div></div>

Add the Boston 1st rounder and the 2024 1st rounder and maybe you're onto something. Without any draft picks, this trade is just laughably bad.

Think about how much 1 year of Marleau at ~$6.5M cost Toronto to move 3-4 years ago to Carolina. That was a 1st round pick to move 1 year of that amount of money. Now think about asking a team to eat almost that amount of money plus take a cap dump for basically a 2nd or 3rd pair tweener in Liljegren and some throw in scraps. Doesn't even begin to talk about the value of the actual Norris winner you're acquiring in the process as well. Simply on the principle of money involved this is a terrible trade for SJ.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 15 at 8:58 a.m.
Thread: The athletic mock draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buffbry9108</b></div><div>Pens trade 31 for barabanov not 17</div></div>

Would agree as a Sharks fan. Or if it is 17th overall coming for him, Pittsburgh gets to toss in a 1 year cap dump type of guy to SJ or SJ tosses in Gregor, Labanc, or the CAR 3rd rounder (not sure how cap would work on Labanc) to justify the move up in picks. Or PIT could just cut out the middle man and trade Granlund and 14th overall to SJ for Barabanov since that is effectively the way that the deal played out.

Would love to get another 1st rounder ahead of the NJD pick at 26th overall. Combine that with the 36th overall pick and you have lots of ammunition to move up and down the draft board for whatever guy(s) you want. Can rebuild a prospect pool quickly that way.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 14 at 3:17 p.m.
Thread: insane 3 way trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JeffGorton</b></div><div>You were complaining about 3m for 2 years in another post about Armia because the market is small but the Sharks get an out on an overpaid 2nd liner whos contract ends when hes 36 when the team is just starting a rebuild, and actually receive assets for him without retention suddenly makes no sense to you</div></div>

Sharks give up the only legit player in the whole deal and are somehow the team moving back in the draft.

Value to move from 4 to 5 is at minimum 5 + 31. So your deal is saying that the value of a top 6 center that has produced at a 68 points per 82 rate for the last 5 years (4 of those being on one of the worst teams in the NHL) is 37th overall and a LHD (which SJ already has literally 11 signed to contracts next year).

If somehow SJ got the same package but were the team moving up to 3rd overall, that deal would make sense. But in this scenario, SJ is giving up 2 of the 3 best assets and getting minimal back in return.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 7 at 5:45 p.m.
Thread: Grit and RD
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Blacktown</b></div><div>I think Grier keeps our picks this year particularly our 1st in a deep draft.</div></div>

"Deep Draft" is a commonly misunderstood deal amongst fans. Deep means that there might be 10-12 guys that would go top 5 in most drafts rather than pick #25 is wildly more valuable in this draft than another draft.

I'd take this package and run if I were Grier. Difference between 25 and 36 when it comes to getting top end talent is basically meaningless. This way, you get 3 kicks at the can of finding a good player in that range rather than 1. Comparing the 2015 Draft (deepest of recent history) with other drafts, the difference in points per game per 1st round drafted skater outside of the top 5 is something like 0.49 from 2015 to 0.47 on average from other years.