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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 23, 2021 at 2:03 p.m.
Thread: Bennings big play
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TravisBickle</b></div><div>I think the Sharks org will work things out with Evander, there was only one report that Kane was having issues in the room and the validity of said report is dubious on top of the fact that Servalli had ZERO details to offer, sounds like pure conjecture to me. Regardless we could do so much better for one of the best power forwards in the game on a fair contract.</div></div>

Frank has nailed the offseason thus far though so I am hesitant to question him. Kurz and Sheng both also said they'd heard rumblings as well. That said, I agree that I think they find a way to make amends and keep him around. Given DW's stated need for guys that play a men's game, Kane is one of those on the roster that does so. Barring a fair value or better deal, think Kane is back next year. It won't be for a cap dump and even worse problem child like this deal laid out assuredly.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 23, 2021 at 1:08 p.m.
Thread: Going for it all
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Are you blind or do you not watch hockey?

Burns is a defensive blackhole who is under contract until he turns 40 and he already has injury issues. You're then just spending 4 mil on dead cap. If I want to see my team spend 4 mil on dead cap, I'd look at Jordan Staal's deal.</div></div>

You showed yourself to have literally no clue when you said "injury issues" regarding Burns. Guy has not missed a single game in 7 straight seasons. What injury does he have? Just finished top 5 in the league in TOI this year at over 26 minutes a night while playing only 44% offensive zone starts (i.e. shutdown pairing) and being a positive possession player and generating more chances than he allowed by a decent margin.

Like I said, you showed that you have no clue in the first post and doubled down on it with the second. This is lunacy at its finest.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 14, 2021 at 10:52 a.m.
Thread: Burns retained if Hamilton walks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KakkoForMauriceRichardAward</b></div><div>Still better than keeping his entire cap hit for 4 more seasons or trading assets to dump him to Seattle</div></div>

It's not though. He's still likely to be a top 4 D-Man for the duration of the deal and is currently still a top pairing guy (not at his prior Norris level but also not 30+ other guys that can eat 25-26 mins a night at the level he does). Retaining that much for that many years to get basically no value is bad. Given the clearly stated intentions of getting back in the playoffs this year, much better off keeping him and letting him continue to eat quality minutes than to give him away for basically nothing while getting a fraction of the cap space back.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 14, 2021 at 8:57 a.m.
Thread: SJ trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yanp007</b></div><div>I think that enough, Meier is 0.6pt/gp over the last 5 seasons.... Drouin is 0.63 pt/gp, right he needs a move, he cannot deal with MTL pressure. Allen is better than all SJ goaltender with a cap friendly contract, Harris last season is 1pt/gp in NCAA, reliable def. Poehling's season in AHL was very good, he'll become a good 3rd line center maybe 2nd line, he needs more time.
MTL is on WIN mode right now, SJ is on REBUILT mode, that's the reason why MTL overpaid for Meier.</div></div>

Sure, let's throw Meier's 20 and 21 year old seasons where he was playing in a bottom 6 role in there to try and skew the numbers out of context. Since Meier has become entrenched in his role in the league as a top 6 player (past 3 seasons), he is scoring at .72 PPG while Drouin is scoring at .60. Additionally, Meier has scored almost as many points as Drouin has played games the past 3 seasons (146 to 152) speaking to how injury prone Drouin is. So no, the comparisons are nowhere near fair.

And no, SJ is not in rebuild mode and there is not a publication from anyone with knowledge of the team saying as such. Whether they should or should not be is debatable, but the organization is very firmly on the record saying they're not rebuilding. And if they were, then why are you putting guys like Allen and Drouin in the deal anyway as they'd be looking for futures?
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2021 at 11:19 a.m.
Thread: Labanc
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ALjet12</b></div><div>Well the Isles do have Varlamov to trade.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>papishark</b></div><div>He’s fine but Not what we need. Sharks need a goalie like Sorokin</div></div>

While I would be interested in Varly, I don't see a young 2nd line winger as the asking price for a 33 year old goalie. Like Papishark said, it would have to center around Sorokin, which obviously NYI aren't going to do. A Labanc trade with NYI would most likely have to return a center, so something around Labanc and Pageau would be where a deal would start as DW is targeting a 3C to play more defensive zone minutes to lessen the burden on Couture. Aka what Pageau has been doing basically his entire career.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2021 at 8:45 a.m.
Thread: Trade up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>papishark</b></div><div>I think id much rather move back than take Edvinsson but thats the beauty of the draft!</div></div>

Just worry that Wallstedt is gone by the time that Ottawa picks which makes the whole thing null and void. For a team that hasn't drafted this high since 2003, you have to assure yourselves that you get an impactful prospect that you really like.

The cost to move down from 7 to 11 would cost more than this package. To move from 20 to 18 in 2013, DW gave up 20th overall and 58th overall. That was just to move up 2 spots much later in the 1st round. By most thought processes and more modern draft pick value charts, it would probably take another late 2nd or early 3rd rounder to make up the difference from 7 to 11 (and likely even more given this draft seems to have a very set top 10 and a bigger than normal fall off of uncertainty after that).
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 1, 2021 at 5:01 p.m.
Thread: Adding vets on the blueline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bunzy1034</b></div><div>He’s good. Just because he’s not big or flashy means he’s bad. He gets the job done and he’s the reason Morrissey isn’t hilariously bad when paired together</div></div>

Sharks fans watched Demelo for years. He is a #4/5 on most teams in the league (he was 4th among Jets D-Men in ice time). He is nowhere near Brent Burns. Burns' step back is more attributed to his usage than being bad. He went from seeing 60% offensive zone starts to about 45% over the past two years. That is the biggest reason for the decrease in points. He was a positive possession player this year playing shutdown minutes and playing 26 minutes a night. There are only a handful of those guys in the league that can carry that kind of load and do it effectively.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 29, 2021 at 11:10 a.m.
Thread: Could it be this simple
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>newballcoach</b></div><div>I don't think Kane fits in well with this core, and at that price, I would pass. Not to mention his plethora of legal issues right now I'm not sure it's worth the gamble. You've tied up almost 53 million in your top-6 forwards, seems a bit short-sighted.

You're going to have a hard time getting any offence out of that bottom 6. And that D core is looking scary if Muzzin misses any games (which he does every year). Goaltending scares me too.</div></div>

It's a bankruptcy proceeding, not some deep dark criminal case. Let's not over exaggerate this by calling it a "plethora of legal issues".

That said, Sharks would probably want something more than just Rielly and it would be a bigger deal as not sure 1 year of Rielly (who would likely not re-sign unless SJ traded Burns to free up money) is worth prime Kane on a fair value deal that expires before it turns into an albatross (will be 33 at expiry).