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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27, 2023 at 3:35 p.m.
Thread: Rebuilding
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheEarthmaster</b></div><div>You're right, it is unreasonable to think they could strengthen the blue line in one off season, especially in the "good defensively" column. But why does that make it a smart move to acquire primarily offensive backend threats? Barrie I can understand, you're moving Parayko to the Oilers you need to take cap back, he's cheap-ish and he's gone next year. Fair enough.

But getting Chychrun improves the blue line in an area that wasn't their biggest problem for two years on a team that's going nowhere. You pay a lot of assets to have him cost controlled, and then don't compete while he's cost controlled. You then have to extend him presumably long term in his 27+ age seasons. That is more or less what we did with Krug/Faulk/Parayko (they were a touch older, but not much). Why is that worth it for this team? Why improve the blue line at all, especially with a question mark in goal and lots more up front? Why not just make the picks and build the defense from the ground up?

This ACGM is called "rebuilding" but trading for two cheap years of a good defenseman does not strike me as a rebuilding move.</div></div>

If you could offload leddy for signing a guy like graves or Severson in FA I think the back end would be top 10 in the league. Part of me also thinks Krug and leddy should be our only trades keep parayko bc he can’t be as bad as he’s played this year I think this summer he can turn around and be the guy we saw in cup run but his back issue is concerning
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27, 2023 at 3:31 p.m.
Thread: Rebuilding
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheEarthmaster</b></div><div>You're right, it is unreasonable to think they could strengthen the blue line in one off season, especially in the "good defensively" column. But why does that make it a smart move to acquire primarily offensive backend threats? Barrie I can understand, you're moving Parayko to the Oilers you need to take cap back, he's cheap-ish and he's gone next year. Fair enough.

But getting Chychrun improves the blue line in an area that wasn't their biggest problem for two years on a team that's going nowhere. You pay a lot of assets to have him cost controlled, and then don't compete while he's cost controlled. You then have to extend him presumably long term in his 27+ age seasons. That is more or less what we did with Krug/Faulk/Parayko (they were a touch older, but not much). Why is that worth it for this team? Why improve the blue line at all, especially with a question mark in goal and lots more up front? Why not just make the picks and build the defense from the ground up?

This ACGM is called "rebuilding" but trading for two cheap years of a good defenseman does not strike me as a rebuilding move.</div></div>

I think chychrun long term is the way to go having him faulk and perunovich as your offensive guys on the back end plus chychrun is in the age group that DA wants. I also think you can teach offensive guys defense better than defensive guys offense. In 2-3 years you’ll hopefully have buldoc and snuggy up on the team with whoever we get this year.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27, 2023 at 2:45 p.m.
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Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 28, 2021 at 2:42 a.m.
Thread: Making moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GM69</b></div><div>Once again, Walman doesn’t crack the rangers team even ahead of these vets. Rangers have these temporary “vets” (really it’s just Nemeth) so Jones and Robertson can develop further before being called up. Nemeth is signed for three years by which Walmart will be 28 versus the 22-23 year old Robertson.

In terms of sundqvist, not only is he not worth these players, he’s not enough of an upgrade over their current bottom 6 to warrant a trade? He’s not going to play over zib, Strome or Chytil. Why are the rangers going to overpay for a fourth line center that isn’t much of an upgrade from what they have?

These players have no fit and the rangers aren’t trading good prospects for middling mid-20 players.


In terms of Fox, yes if he wants to walk in 4 years he could. But I doubt it. Not with the way he forced his way to NYR.


Keep in mind, the main reason kravtsov was sent down was to get extra conditioning to be ready since he missed a lot of training camp. Instead of taking it for what it was he viewed it as an insult and ran away. Them not wanting to lose hajek for nothing was the other reason.</div></div>

This is laughable, walman isn’t Better than any of you bottom pairs cmon now I know you don’t watch the blues games at all if you’re talking like that.

Sunny is better than you’re bottom 6 players no doubt he plays a better game all around and he has already proved he can be trusted by moving up the lineup with more minutes and tough responsibilities going against top lines. It’s ok to admit you don’t know much about them but don’t “homer” your team because the are stuggling at center depth.

Also Robertson was a 2nd round pick he isn’t some first rounders that the league is looking forward to seeing he’s just top 10 of ranger prospects not NHL prospects.

Thinking the way you are now is what keep the rags from winning the cup.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 27, 2021 at 5:43 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles10</b></div><div>”Multiple first rounders and a nhl ready prospect or 20 goal scorer.”

”I could see him getting 50 this year”.

Haha what is happening? Are you paid by Doug Armstrong? This is two of the most deluded sentences I’ve seen on this site. 5 games in and suddenly he’s prime Ovechkin. A month ago no one was willing to pay a likely ”modest” prize to get him, and Seattle didn’t want him for free.

He has been really good so far and I’m happy for him and the team, it’ll be interesting going forward how both parties proceed.

5 games in and Lou panics, he offer St. Louis:
2022 1st
2023 1st
Oliver Wahlstrom</div></div>

If he stays healthy he has the ability to keep up with ovechkin. For a 5 year stretch only ovi had more goals than him then the injuries hit. Yes it’s only 5 games but he’s enjoying himself like he did when he was putting up 40 goals and this time he’s surrounded by better talent. He’s finally smiling and talking on the bench after every shift because he’s not worried about if his shoulder will fail the next. If he’s on a pace for 45plus goals then that price isn’t crazy, he’s 28 he can easily do 6-7 more years and for a team that struggles to score the islanders if they had the space in cap would probably do it.

Also no one wanted him Bc of his shoulder they didn’t know if it was really fixed or not, no one would give up anything decent if the return isn’t going to make it one shift. His shoulder is good so far hopefully it stays like that, he will end up staying a blue tho
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 26, 2021 at 10:42 p.m.
Thread: Making moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GM69</b></div><div>Just so you know, during that time the rangers ranked 10th best 81.8% (and that includes Seattles limited action at 85.7%). The best was 86% and the 8 teams above them are the ones you would expect (VGK, BOS, CAR, TBL, NYI, COL, WSH, EDM). PP has absolutely nothing to do with PK as the players you are trading do not help the rangers improve in that area. Over the course of the season the PP will average out to the ~20% it has been the past few years. Not really worried about that. They have the 10th best also since the 2017-18 season

Barron is still on the books, so is Chytil. You can find a 4th line center for cheap, teams do it every year.

Robertson is still on ELC next year so he will still be cheaper. He is already better than Walman. Where does Walman fit in with Lindgren, Miller, Jones on the LH side as he wouldn't supplant any of them (let alone Robertson)? Definitely not on the RH side with Fox, Trouba, Lundkvist and Schneider all above him.

Bet: Fox is going to take a team friendly deal since he FORCED his way to NYR. I'm guessing it will be a 4 year deal so he can get paid once the cap goes up and trouba/panarin are off the books. If it is an 8 year deal, it may still be 8.5m or less because he wants to be a NYR for life.

This is a stupid move and clearly you are not a true NYR fan for proposing it</div></div>

You do a 4 year deal on fox and he see that the team isn’t going to win he walks he will be UFA then he will cash out now if he wants to play the whole time for the Rangers.

As for the guys you’re talking about if they are better why are they in the minors now losing out to 28-29 year olds that haven’t produced for the Rangers. I don’t think you know much about the guys on the blues that are apart of the trade and I’m not a Rangers fan.

You’re hooked on guys that aren’t being played over aging veterans. this is a get better now so the young guys you’re talking about can get a few more years under their belt in the minors.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 26, 2021 at 9:59 p.m.