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Jul 11, 2020
Detroit Red Wings
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buffbry</b></div><div>No to the Vegas, carolina and Toronto the trades, the rest are ok
Absolutely yes to raymond being the guy too</div></div>
See, the Staal trade made me think about hopes, and Detroit fans on here do seem to like to aim high. I would like more, but the Vegas/Canes 3 way trade gets us a serviceable stopgap (Who I would probably re-sign tbh), a 1st round pick, a conditional 3rd and a 4 place upgrade in the 2nd round. That's huge value.
My thinking with the Leafs trade is that the difference between the two picks is minimal, but Kerfoot can wait there until one of the prospects is ready to take over at C, at which point he can be flipped for a mid pick again, it's not sexy but it's better than Nielsen.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MetaKnight</b></div><div>Freddie's become a proven number 1 in his time with the Leafs, he wasn't with the Ducks</div></div>
So, there isn't much of a precedent for a proven starter who has fallen out of favour with the fanbase and is on the wrong side of 30 being traded,
Best example I can find is the Luongo deal back in 2014, he fetched Shawn Matthias and Jacob Markstrom (who at that point had looked like a career backup.)
The problem with this comparable is the contract. Luongo was acquired at $4.5 million per year with 7 years left to pay (though it was a front loaded deal, so he had been paid more than half of his money.
It was cost controlled, and he did have 4 seasons in Florida where he was reasonably worth the money.
Cap wise this is obviously a poor comparison for Freddy, who is at $5mil, so proportionally less of the cap than Luongo, but in need of a raise next summer during an offseason where the cap will stay flat.
I am by no means suggesting Freddy will return Matthias and a backup, but there is no precident at all for freddy having this much value.
Curiously, the last case of a goalie returning a 1st round pick straight up was the original Freddie trade.