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Armchair-GM
Feb. 18, 2023 at 12:41 a.m.
Thread:
Oh yeah baby oh yeah
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Blues super mega pass. They won't be the only ones here.</div></div>
Super mega fleece
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 29, 2021 at 6:07 a.m.
Thread:
Teach me how to Dougie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DrLLCoolJay</b></div><div>Yes, I have Chychrun as their best d-man, OEL is in my eyes third atm, but I'm not sure if they resign Goligoski for next year. Rielly had one good year 3 years ago so I would rather put him in the same category as Gustafsson, DeAngelo and Gostisbehere who were also briefly thought of as superstars, than consider him to be on par with players who have solid season-to-season records. So yes, I consider OEL to be better than him.
Yes, sure take Pietrangelo who signed 8.8M until the age of 37, you aren't getting as much out of those 2-3 last years. You have signed Dougie until he's 34. Everyone always want to go to Toronto for less since they are Toronto, right? Well, I can only remember that happening with around 5 players: Tavares (not really a discount), Spezza (yummy, his prime years!), Thornton (he's still getting better, teams were probably lining up to get him), Marleau (there must have been a bidding war here for this UFA), Simmonds (The JvR-Bozak-Kadri PP in one player! Wow what a great signing). If you have some other examples of when this has actually happened, please enlighten me.</div></div>
Your take on Rielly is insane. You claim he had one(?) good season 3 years ago and then compare him to players who actually had one successful season playing in sheltered roles. Nobody is claiming Rielly is good defensively but that slander is ridiculous, and you're not giving him the credit he's due offensively.
In terms of a "discount" I'm not talking about 2 million per off like Tavares took to sign here over the Sharks, or the extra year + mil that the Islanders offered him, I'm talking about a few hundred thousand off what I imagine another real contender would offer. I'm not even sure what to say about your tangent about other discounts, you just started naming random signings and ****ting on them? Why does there have to be specific Leaf related examples within the past few years, when you named Tavares and Spezza. You can go with Panarin with NYR who turned down more money from the Islanders, funny how all the elite players seem to take less when the alternative is to play for the Islanders, huh? On the plus side they can load up on all the best 4th line talent the league has ever seen!
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 29, 2021 at 5:00 a.m.
Thread:
Teach me how to Dougie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>That's an opinion, dont read into it that much</div></div>
By no means am I treating it like Gospel, but when Friedman says something there's always something behind it. Regardless, in all likelihood the Leafs extend Rielly, and don't go after Hamilton.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 29, 2021 at 4:50 a.m.
Thread:
Teach me how to Dougie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>At least 8M, Where did Friedman say that?</div></div>
On SN590 a few weeks back, here's a tweet about it: https://twitter.com/Account4hockey/status/1405969201253203969
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 29, 2021 at 4:32 a.m.
Thread:
Teach me how to Dougie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DrLLCoolJay</b></div><div>I like how ARI would give away two great forwards for 2 bottom 6 guys and what would become their third best LHD. But that's somehow not even the worst part of this ACGM. Because Dougie signs for less than both Trouba and Spurgeon who both signed new contracts fairly recently...</div></div>
Lost me at third best D. I'll give you Chychrun but who's the other? OEL lmao?
Trouba and Spurgeon both signed before covid, a better comparable is Pietrangelo who signed for 8.8m last offseason, but Pietrangelo is much better defensively. I suppose it depends if there's any truth to what Friedman said about wanting to sign closer to home and if he's got a soft spot for the team he grew up cheering for. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Egtx04SXYAIfyh_.jpg
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 29, 2021 at 4:27 a.m.
Thread:
Teach me how to Dougie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Islesforthecup</b></div><div>Here comes the rielly is worth mcdavid+drai leafs fans.</div></div>
What would you say Rielly fetches as a pure rental? I understand Arizona may not be the right fit, but with them shopping OEL and having hopes to make some progress eventually, who knows. I wanted to seek Dvorak and Garland, you can imagine it as a three way trade if you'd like. You can make the 2nd I gave a 1st, throw in prospects, it doesn't really matter. It's more about the roster than anything.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 29, 2021 at 4:22 a.m.
Thread:
Teach me how to Dougie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GrinReaper</b></div><div>What’s the plan for 22/23 when you only have 11.6 mil in cap and only 11 players under contract.</div></div>
Continue plugging the holes with players on their ELC and cheap depth. As I mentioned in an earlier reply, if there's no progress move Marner.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 29, 2021 at 4:20 a.m.
Thread:
Teach me how to Dougie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Lol Zona doen't consider that, Dougie also gets way more</div></div>
How much more? In a covid cap era I doubt he gets that much over 8 unless its a massive overpay. It's been reported by Friedman that he'd like to sign close to home, so will a few million sway him to sign elsewhere?"
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 29, 2021 at 3:55 a.m.
Thread:
Teach me how to Dougie
The only significant extensions that would be needed next offseason are Campbell and Sandin. Regardless, if no progress is made Mitch is as good as gone imo.
To a lot of fans running it back with this core is delusional as is. If we're sitting here next season with 6th consecutive first round exits there's no chance all the big four stay.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 1, 2018 at 7:42 a.m.
Thread:
ready now
This is the most ******** thing I've ever seen in my life.
Nylander, Kapanen, two first round picks plus other prospects and picks for Dumba and Zucker? And the Wild fan is asking for us to add more? The **** is this website.
Nylander alone could fetch Dumba and Zucker, if not more. Not to mention all the other trades benefit the Leafs absolutely zero as well, they make them worse in the present and in the long term.
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Armchair-GM
May 9, 2018 at 7:37 p.m.
Thread:
Would buffalo accept?
Yeah... no way.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 7, 2018 at 12:31 p.m.
Thread:
More Cheap Ideas
Why would you want to do any of these trades? They seem to make you guys a way worse team down the road.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 7, 2018 at 12:26 p.m.
Thread:
O'reilly gone
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ragsandbluesfan</b></div><div>He was 4th, ekblad, reinhart, draisaitl, THEN came bennett</div></div>
You got me there. It doesn't really matter, each of them have way more value than Okposo does, and you think they're worth both+?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 7, 2018 at 12:25 p.m.
Thread:
Fixing things
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ragsandbluesfan</b></div><div>But thats in comparison to point meanwhile callahan has negative value and compared to the rest of the league hertl isnt scraps</div></div>
You're delusional if you think this trade would ever happen. You simply don't have the assets, besides multiple first round picks, to acquire Point.
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Armchair-GM
May 6, 2018 at 9:29 p.m.
Thread:
O'reilly gone
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ragsandbluesfan</b></div><div>Sure if u wanna use that logic anderssom has little nhl experience and bennett is a bust</div></div>
Okposo is making $6 million. You'd have to pay teams to take that contract off your hands, you wouldn't be given a former 2nd overall pick who at very least is a 3rd line center and a solid defensive prospect.
Come on man.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 6, 2018 at 9:27 p.m.
Thread:
Fixing things
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ragsandbluesfan</b></div><div>How is hertl scraps</div></div>
Point is nearly 3 years younger and has outproduced Hertl in every year he's been in the league.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 6, 2018 at 8:55 p.m.
Thread:
Fun Times
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wojme</b></div><div>Overpayment on Buffalo's side of the Montreal trade.</div></div>
Disagree. The 3rd overall pick should be worth more than that.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 6, 2018 at 8:54 p.m.
Thread:
O'reilly gone
What even is that Calgary trade? You get Bennett and Andersson for an overpaid declining winger?
How did you even come up with this idea...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 6, 2018 at 8:52 p.m.
Thread:
McAvoy + Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vanderm</b></div><div>TOR is going to have a tough time keeping all their young guys under manageable contracts. It was clear this year that defense is what knocked them out of playoffs, not lack of scoring. The Marner trade (or Nylander) is one way for them to free up the cap space to go and get another top 10 player in the world: John Tavares, while also adding some valuable draft picks and a Top 4 dman.</div></div>
Lol yeah no. Leafs are not accepting a bust of a 2nd overall pick and a declining, overpaid defensman for an elite 21 year old player. We have plenty of cap space to afford Tavares or a dman like Doughty next free agency if we really wanted.
You mentioned that the Leafs "needed defense". If that was the case why would we trade for a Bennett and Hamonic? Wake up.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 6, 2018 at 8:46 p.m.
Thread:
Fixing things
Do you really think you're getting Point for scraps?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 6, 2018 at 8:44 p.m.
Thread:
Red Wings Rebuild, Part Two
You're not getting the OHLs best player for Dekeyser, doesn't matter if you take Lehtera back.
Also, the Nuge trade makes no sense for Oilers and is an extreme underpayment.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 6, 2018 at 8:42 p.m.
Thread:
Finessin Swedes left and right
Every single one of these trades is delusional... You're severely overeating your players lol.
This is actually laughablely bad.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 6, 2018 at 8:40 p.m.
Thread:
Your thoughts
Arizona says no and hangs up immediately on that Strome trade, and you are severely underestimating Petry in that last trade. He's worth more than you think.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 6, 2018 at 8:35 p.m.
Thread:
The Final Pieces
None of these trades go through except maybe the Hainsey one. Also it would be hard to afford the big three with us paying Carlson that much for 7 years.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 6, 2018 at 8:33 p.m.
Thread:
Toronto Maple Leafs
All these trades are horrible, none of these teams accept these trades. Even the Leafs likely shy away from the Doughty one, considering he's a UFA after next season.
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