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Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 11:40 am
Thread: if the rangers were to try and make a playoff push
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Nothing of what I said involved the trade (which is bad for Minnesota so it wont happen) so you can just subtract his 73 games. Also you don't count playoff experience by lines you count it by player. if 1 player cant adjust it effects the whole line. you cant drive with a flat tire.</div></div>

i know you didn't comment on the trade. All i stated was that's why i said they should do it if "that's all it would take", it's pretty unrealistic.

Even if you do it by player, you have 7 players with over 25 games of experience in the playoffs
4 with over 70.
2 with over 100.

Not every player needs to have playoff experience in order to be successful in the playoffs, you just have to have a solid leadership core with experience to push them through.
And if you read what I wrote, I did state that they aren't cup contenders and that it's never a bad thing for young players to get some playoff experience. 1st round exit would be likely, but if it's a 6-7 game series it would still be worth a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 7th (which i already said was unrealistic so lets not get into that again)
Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 10:59 am
Thread: if the rangers were to try and make a playoff push
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>They are the youngest team in the league and currently 9 points back. even if Shesterkin carries them every game they will almsot certainly be a 1st round exit due to generally being a small team with lacking postseason experience. This would be a horrible decision by management</div></div>

If that's all it would take to get zucc w/ retained they should do this. The rangers would have more playoff experience than you would think-- but no they won't be a cup contender. It's never a bad thing to give young players playoff experience


Lines would be
Panarin-Strome-Zucc - 115 games experience (more if you count in panarins playoff experience in khl- 42 games)
Kreider-Zibanejad-Buch - 110 games experience
DiGiuseppe-Chytil-Kakko - 0 games experience
Lemiuex - Howden - Fast - 39 games experience

Skjei-Trouba - 44 games experienc
Lindgren-Fox - 0 games experience
Staal - ADA - 104 games experience

Lundqvist - 128 games experience
Shesterkin - 16 games experience with SKA in KHL
Forum: Armchair-GMWed at 3:28 pm
Thread: Kreider Making His Case
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jimbo1119</b></div><div>OK..I think I'm understanding you a little better...you're suggesting trading him for assets now...and then trying to sign him when he goes UFA...I don't want to dismiss that plan...right now anything can happen. I just think that if he offers any "hometown discount"- that will come before TDL (and probably would have already presented itself). If they do trade him to a team they know will be hard pressed to resign him- then the possibility does exist that they jump into the UFA bidding for him. I just think at that point all Kreider will consider will be 7 year offers starting at 7M. I don't think the Rangers will go for that. If they really still want him and they are close right now on money AND term then make it happen ASAP. I wouldn't worry about creating a path for any prospect...that's a good problem to have which you solve when it presents itself as a problem- and if lucky enough to have that problem there should be many options to work it out.</div></div>

the thing i'm worried about in terms of path for a prospect is i think kreider may insist on a NMC or a NTC.. something I would only do if he took a significant hometown discount.. he's definitely worth around 6.5 the way he is currently playing but I find it hard to believe he will be worth that in 4-5 years... having a NMC/NTC at that point may suck
Forum: Armchair-GMWed at 8:52 am
Thread: Kreider Making His Case
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jimbo1119</b></div><div>Problem with your CK strategy is that the 6/6.75 offered in this lineup is if he signs before TDL...No lottery team is going to trade their 1st for a rental...and relying on the Ranger's chances of getting into top 3 in the draft...good luck with that- so if they make the decision to sign him after they know their draft position is outside top 3- will require him to go UFA...and the starting point for that will be 7X7...the term will become the real deal breaker here.</div></div>

who said anything about a lottery first for CK? After rangers sell off they are bound to fall in the standings. I don't think they will make the playoffs, so they'll have a lottery pick-- which means they have the potential to have a top 3 pick (even if it's not probable). I do not think the rangers have a high probability of this, I'm just saying it would be stupid to resign kreider and have Lafreniere's or Stutzle's path to a top 6 LW spot blocked. I'm saying they should follow what the Yankees did a few years back (assuming they don't get a top 3 pick). I know it's baseball but look what the yankees did with Chapman-- they traded him when they weren't playoff bound for Gleyber Torres (stud prospect) and then resigned Chapman in the offseason. All I'm saying is it would be in the best interest of the <em>team</em> to do the same, even if they are interested in keeping CK.


Rangers can talk to CK now about extension and even though it may not be "ethical" they can talk about giving him the opportunity to go for a cup this year and then resigning him to a deal in the summer-- if he really wanted to stay with the rangers he can still take a discount (look at david perron, exposed in expansion draft then signed a team friendly deal with the team that gave him up). The only way your logic works is if the rangers were signing him to a 8 year deal (please god no) for the cap hit to be a bit lower-- they won't be able to if they trade him, the max would be 7 but in the example you say it would be 6 years so it wouldn't be affected.
Forum: Armchair-GMWed at 8:23 am
Thread: Kreider Making His Case
Keep DeGiuseppe on the fourth line over boyle.. he's much faster and plays the same physical style. ADA won't sign for 2.5m, so someone is gonna have to go. I think the rangers should just offer Strome a 2 year 4m a year deal, not 4.5-- his numbers are definitely inflated by panarin-- hopefully a team will overpay for him, I would stick Chytil with panarin if stromer gets traded. Keep in mind the rangers will most likely have a top 10 pick which means they may have an additional player on the team next year.

Also, only way i resign CK is if rangers do not get a top 3 pick in the draft. Lafreniere trumps Kreider and so does Stutzle (his long term outlook is looking like wing).

Here is hoping Hank agrees to be traded by the deadline since Sheshterkin has taken over the #1 spot
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 9:22 am
Thread: Upgrades
Right now the standings are

1. Det - not taking goalie in 1-4
2. LA - not taking goalie in 2-5
3. Ott - not taking goalie in 3-6
4. NJ - not taking goalie in 4-7
5. Ott (via SJ) - possibly take a goalie if this falls to 7-8
6. Ana - not taking goalie
7. Buff - most likely not taking a goalie
8. Chicago - may take a goalie, especially if they are leapfrogged
9. Minn - probably will take a goalie
10. NYR - not taking a goalie
11. NSH - they need a solid goalie option for the future, possible.


If Ott has their 5th fall to 7-8 I would not eliminate them taking Askarov. They do have a decent goalie prospect in Gustavsson but he's struggling in the AHL and just isn't at the level of Askarov.. also 3-4 years older.

I really think that it's up to Ottawa, Chicago, Minnesota and Nashville in the 8-11 range
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 7 at 9:43
Thread: Taking a crack at Eichel
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingLundqvist30</b></div><div>Yea it’s massive overpay. But this is showing that he is untouchable</div></div>

i get that Eichel is pretty much untouchable, but Zibs 5.3 for 70-80 points (he's technically on a pace of 94 points per 82 games right now) is much better than Eichel at 10m for 102 points. Its a difference of roughly 10 points and you are losing two of our top prospects, a very high first round pick this year, a 1st rounder next year, and a 2nd line winger in buchnevich.. just don't see that it's worth it.

Until the lottery it isn't worth it to give up the 2020 1st.. even if it's a top ten pick you are looking at complete studs like Stutzle, Rossi, Perfetti, Lundell, Holtz, Raymond in spots 3-8. And that's only if Drysdale falls because of his injury and Askarov falls out of the top 10 (goalies are fickle)

I would prefer to center a deal around ADA or Trouba. I get that they'll need a center in return so maybe some combination with Chytil as well idk
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 5 at 8:47
Thread: Question- Fair deals for Bos SJ EDM and COL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gofnut999</b></div><div>In a word a no....these are all ripoffs. Especially that Sharks deal. Swap Labanc for a 2nd. Then they might consider it. 3rd they’d consider it more. Sorry to burst your bubble but while fans are impressed by small sample sizes and hot streaks I can assure GMs are not. While fans were seeing a future #1 goalie worthy of a 1st or a young 20 goal scorer, GMs saw a backup caliber goalie worth a 3rd and a prospect.

Bruins, eliminate the retention on both sides. Drop the 1st to a 2nd or the 2nd to a 3rd. Consider it.</div></div>

cost to take bakes w/o retention is a 1st round pick and that's without giving anything up (see marleau trade last year). w/ retained you are still likely giving up a 2nd but i'll give you the 3rd rounder.

Cost for kreider is a 1st and a young roster forward. Don't wanna give it up? someone will.. btw the deal helps Boston retain Krug and others next season by eliminating an extra 2m in cap (with the proposed retained salary)..

so heinen+1st+3rd is pretty much the minimum to eliminate Backes' salary next year too
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 4 at 1:15