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Spanky227

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Forum: Armchair-GMJan 12 at 12:15
Thread: 2023 - Barkov
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheFlamingC</b></div><div>Nobody passes on a D prospect and 1st for one year (or two I can’t rmbr) of Looch except maybe Calgary, 2 2nds for Rittuch is more than fair and


I’d beg to differ. One single late round 1st for a good defensive 2C (middle 6 C if your picky) on a cheap contract. Blake Coleman got a 1st. Kasperi Kapanen got a 1st.</div></div>

Blake Coleman had two years on his contract and Tampa overpaid.
Kapanen is younger and more cost controlled (as an RFA) and has a higher ceiling and everybody screams that Pittsburgh overpaid.

Not good comparable trades.

Hayes barely got a 1st when rangers traded him and he was having his best season at that point (42 points in 51 games) while being defensively responsible, playing pk, and driving play. He was also younger but also a ufa. Backlund took a step back last year (as did CGY as a whole), if this was last offseason I would say yeah because the year he came off of and the extra year on his contract but no one will pay that for a 30+ 3rd liner
Forum: Armchair-GMJan 8 at 11:52
Thread: cup 2022
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>My point is why would the Capitals trade Eller who is a great 2 way center and produces roughly the same offensively as Strome and add a 2nd...Panarin was on fire last year and made Strome look great. thats my opinion on the matter. like i said 35 point average player scores at a 70 point average playing with arguably the best winger in hockey not a coincidence</div></div>

Your argument is flawed as it doesn’t take into account Stromes contributions as It doesn’t take into account that he was playing over four minutes more per game, or the fact that he got consistent power play time. Do I think Strome is a 70-80 point player without Panarin? No, but 50 isn’t out of the realm of possibility.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan 8 at 11:39
Thread: cup 2022
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>what year i mean you need to be specific... are you taking about when he scored 35 points? lmfao?

last 5 years

71gp 8g 20a 28 p
69gp 13g 17a 30p
82gp 13g 21a 34p
81gp 19g 16a 35p &lt;------- 2 years ago lmfao?
70gp 18g 41a 59p &lt;--------- year he played with AP almost 2x his assists average for the last 5 years lol hmmmmm wonder how that happened


35 point average player without AP ......70 point average with him.... do the math kiddo lol</div></div>

He was horrible in edmonton. What he means is, after he was traded to NY he took off. He had I think 1 point in 20 games prior to the trade, and he didn’t immediately perform for the rangers. He got the majority of those 35 points in the final 50 games. Yes, Panarin did help his totals last year, but Panarin also reached higher totals as well from playing with Strome. He had 50 with the islanders, then couldn’t live up to the pressure as a young player. But yeah Eller and a 2nd is too much, definitely depends on this season. If he plays even better he could just be a late bloomer
Forum: Armchair-GMJan 7 at 9:23
Thread: A True Star-for-Star Deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Alfie11</b></div><div>First of all, the age difference and years of team control mean the same thing, being younger is only notable when one expires as an RFA or the older player is mid-30s+. This falls into the former category, which means that because PLD is younger, he has the team control, so you’re double dipping there. Then to follow that up, the value difference is not larger than the difference in skill currently between Zibby and PLD/Knazko, and you’re thinking it’s bigger than that gap, plus worth two top 50 prospects? It’s not even close. If you took out both prospects the Rangers would still decline. We’re talking about a guy who put up 75 points in 57 games (108 point pace) vs. a guy with a career high 82 game pace of 61 points, and zibanejad plays nearly 4 minutes more per game, he’s just as physical, a much better two-way guy who plays the PK, wins more faceoffs, and takes less penalties lol</div></div>

Don’t forget when PLD put up those numbers he was playing with Panarin, for all of those ppl that say Strome has no value 😂
Forum: Armchair-GMJan 6 at 11:11
Thread: will this get eichel
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lsendel3</b></div><div>It’s only NYR fans that keep making these. And I’m not 100% on the rules, but I don’t think Zib can sign an extension more then a year out of his contract remaining (very well could be wrong). Either way, this trade is done when Zib is 29 and Eichel is 25 according to the poster, and Eichel is still getting better, along with his team around him still getting better. If the Sabres trade him, doubt Zib would be the return due to age. Because if Buffalo is trading Eichel, it’s a rebuild correct? They aren’t gonna spin their wheels with adding Zib while giving to Eichel. That’s just bad asset management. So yeah, I think Buf will keep Eichel (and btw, that NMC kicks in in two years, so this desperate play with a year left before that kicks in is moot and Buf can trade him anywhere they please)</div></div>
No trade will happen till the end of the year since Buffalo paid out eichels bonus, so next summer zib will be able to sign extension
Forum: Armchair-GMJan 6 at 10:57
Thread: will this get eichel
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lsendel3</b></div><div>First, he’s not extended. Second, he’s had one season better then Eichel. Third, his extension will be close to Eichel’s. Four he’s 28 vs 24. No a small add doesn’t get it done.</div></div>

Well yeah that’s why I said extended would be part of it... and odds are he will have another great year, if he gets anywhere close to his 6th points per game and top 2 goals per game forget about it, you ain’t getting kakko as well. One thing ppl are forgetting is that eichel has a nmc and will want to go to a contender as the only reason it’s been rumored he wants a trade is for a lack of winning. Doubt he agrees to go to a rebuilding team. NYR are in the perfect position AND they can afford him. I’m only gonna say this once, THE ONLY WAY HE GETS TRADED IS IF HE WANTS OUT. I doubt any team comes close to offering Zibanejad alone let alone with the former second overall pick. Either Buffalo takes the best deal or they have an unhappy eichel for the remainder of his contract.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan 6 at 10:20
Thread: Big Stage Dubois
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>CBJ needs a NHL centre back in any trade. So gotta think Strome has to go. IMO, no way CBJ trades PLD this season, if for the only reason "he wants out". Gee, you don't let players dictate your trades.</div></div>

It happens more often than you would think with the rangers; look at St. Louis when he wanted the trade; Nash; etc. the rangers also in past years have let their better prospects go (obviously not recently).
If Strome is added, I can see rangers sending a lesser prospect than Schneider. Maybe a Zach Jones or Matthew Robinson. Still good but not the top tier. I think rangers would also let lundkvist go before Schneider. Personally I think Strome Lundkvist and a 1st would move the needle a bit for Columbus where they would at least send a counter back.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsDec 20, 2020 at 11:46
Thread: Prospect swap what needs to be added
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mikearky</b></div><div>Kings say No. Turcotte has a higher ceiling</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Salzy</b></div><div>Regardless of centre depth you don’t trade away a potential 1C unless it’s an insane overpay</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>I don't know why Rags fans keep low balling for Turcotte.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rhea</b></div><div>Probably don't see him play. He's gonna be a good one.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Claesson4Norris</b></div><div>Turcotte is way more valuable than Lundqvist. Brett Howden isn't a valuable asset anymore, he's just a bad NHL player.</div></div>

I know turcotte has the higher ceiling, which is why I said what needs to be added. Ppl here are severely underrating Lundkvist tho, just a glance at wheelers top ranked prospect post draft can show you that, turcotte is at 15 and lundkvist is at 25. Both centers and right handed defenseman are premiums in the league with a slight edge going to centers. LA just got Byfield and have Villardi, Lias Andersson, Akil Thomas, and Rasmus kupari; so it’s not like they are lacking at center. Keep in mind this is also a team that has kopitar signed for another four seasons. They have barely any defensive prospects and lundkvist is one of the top defensive prospects in the league. Howden was just a throw in to fill a bottom six role. He’s only 22 so it’s not like he cannot grow at all as a player. He will never be an elite player, but he can become a very good third liner or fringe 2nd line player still.