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Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 10, 2022 at 8:22 a.m.
Thread: Targeting the rebuild timeline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buffbry</b></div><div>Don't want or need Ryan reeves. Rather take a 3rd for leddy with no contract coming back.

Gagner probably isnt going anywhere he's the glue guy on the team that all his teammates like, plays PK and leadership roles for the wings. I wouldn't be shocked if they resigned him again.

Dadanov is expensive and not needed and I get he's a cap dump for brisson, but also paying a 2nd ontop of taking a bad contract. These moves honestly just don't move the needle or make sense for the wings. brisson is same as Holloway, most likely a 3rd liner, they have plenty of that already for prospects.

If we are gonna make moves it won't look like these.</div></div>

So in essence, you'd rather have a 3rd round pick and a 4th round pick over Brisson moving forward?

I get the fact that Gagner is a good locker room guy which is great to have around, but the Wings have shown recently that they shouldn't be playing for this year anymore, they should be looking forward. And if they keep Gagner or trade him, they would still have the same opportunity to sign him again in the offseason.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 15, 2020 at 8:00 a.m.
Thread: Receiving dumps
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhockey91</b></div><div>The goalie market sucks though. Look at Murray only getting a 2nd and Lenher only getting a 2nd and subban. And yes I know, those goalies signed to way bigger contracts then Bernier, but they also have way higher pedigree. The goalie market sucks right now.

And as for bernier for fleury straight up yes of course VGK would do it, but Detroit obviously doesn’t as you said. The issue I have, is the cost to move fleury won’t be that much, and the return to trade fleury to another team with retention won’t be that high either. The concept makes sense, but the execution needs work</div></div>

I think the goalie market did suck for Pitt when they were trying to trade Murray due to how many good goalies were free agents at the time and wouldnt cost the new team a pick to acquire.

The goalie market has dried up now though and a couple teams look like they could still use upgrades, which is where Edmonton came into my thought process.

Now admittedly, my idea was originally to have MAF play for Detroit for awhile to try to reestablish his value with a hot start and then trade him. But then I realized that a potential 2 week quarantine for him going to a Canadian team mid season would make it a no go, so I made it a 3 team trade. Obviously I should have adjusted the team getting MAF or the return from Edmonton accordingly and I failed to do so, which was my bad.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 15, 2020 at 7:42 a.m.
Thread: Receiving dumps
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>digitalbath</b></div><div>alright working from there, knowing that Vegas has to give up something to move him, what is the cost? 1st and a prospect? I cant see any way they get a taker without including a first round or a higher end prospect, maybe not both, but one or the other?</div></div>

That was my train of thought. I felt like MAF would cost a 1st minimum to move due to his salary and 2 year term in a flat cap period. And then by getting Bernier back, I felt like that could get them a prospect like Hague, due to his reasonably low cost combined with the year he had last year and the fact that his contract is expiring after this year.

With Vegas going for it this year, I can't see them trading MAF without wanting to get a good goalie back to pair with Lehner.