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Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 11 at 11:38 p.m.
Thread: Hockey Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drambui</b></div><div>not the same age bro. caufield also doesnt have any 70 points season. would you trade him away for a late first?

your is flawed man. suzuki 70 point season is the outlier too the way you think.</div></div>

No the difference is Suzuki has been progressing towards a 70 point season every year, if he has another 60 point season next year, then yes this year would be his outlier as well. Necas hasn't progressed every year, he has been a 50 point player every year leading up to his 70 point season, then followed that 70 point season up with another 55 point season, that's the definition of an outlier, something outside the norm.

Also Domi scored 72 points when he was 24, Necas scored 71 points when he was 24, same age. The fact that Necas is regressing back to his normal 55 point average should scare GM's off signing him to big money for long term.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 9 at 9:39 p.m.
Forum: Fauteuil - DGApr. 8 at 12:51 p.m.
Thread: Habs win Celebrini lottery
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Subbanator7667</b></div><div>Necas isnt worth any of those three unless Carolina is adding a sweetener. Plus the whole hypothetical situation here is that Necas is a cap casualty, so trading him for a player with the same cap hit or higher doesn't make any sense, which means it would be picks and prospects for Necas.

I get what you want but fans on this site are doing Necas trades with the idea that Carolina can't afford to resign him because they choose to sign Jarvis long term, 8+ million, resign Skeji, resign Pesce and resign Guentzel. Leaving now room for Necas</div></div>

See what I mean, they <strong>think</strong> Necas has a McDavid trajectory when reality is he has Domi's. He is a 40-60 point 2nd line forward who will occasionally put up 70 points, that's it. He isn't going to suddenly become a ppg player at 26 or supplant Suzuki or Aho ad the number 1C. He is a solid 2nd line forward who will need a new contract and is looking at north of 7 mil. The fact that these Canes fans would rather lose 3 very important peices to their lineup for nothing over getting a decent return for a 2nd line player is actually quite sad.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>evelutions2</b></div><div>Once again, the notion that the Canes can’t afford a Necas extension is laughable. Turbo, Skjei, and Pesce all likely have to walk, but the damage from that has also been mitigated with other acquisitions. Necas is a player who isn’t a great fit in a defense first system, but would relatively easily be putting up 80-100+ points in an offensive system that utilizes Necas biggest strengths.

That being said, one of the biggest reasons why the Canes aren’t going to consider the vast majority of these packages, is between people thinking the Canes don’t have the cap space to sign Necas, and the fact that any team wanting to acquire Necas would have to buy off a contending team that has no reason to trade him. Much like the Blues with Buchnevich, you would have to give them a reason to trade away their asset, and it’s going to take more than a late 1st, a prospect, and an assortment of picks.</div></div>

Do you seriously think Pesce and Skeji are going to be easy to replace at less than 2 mil each?! That is some kind of delusion you have there, you don't just replace top 4 D men like they grow on trees.
Forum: Fauteuil - DGApr. 8 at 11:38 a.m.
Thread: Habs win Celebrini lottery
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ht42</b></div><div>All of the 3 players have much more value than Necas...................................... Bergevin isn't anymore the Habs GM.......

Caufield have somes better offensive stats than Necas at a younger age, Suzuki is able to carry offensively a full team and Slaf can hit easily the 70-80 pts mark next season.

But Necas is now 25-26, have a good season (and haved a breakout season last year with playing with Aho, etc.), but already hit his prime.</div></div>

I agree, hence the reason I said he was delusional. He thinks Necas is McDavid or MacKinnon, hell most Canes fans seem to think that. Necas has a career average of 55 points a season, which he is once again conveniently on pace for but they see that 71 point season as being his norm not the outlier it is. Necas has Domi's value yet they think he is McDavid or something.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 9 at 5:34 p.m.
Thread: Looking at 2-years ahead
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Necas is going to make around what Caufield makes, and that isn't even close for his trade value. *Maybe* if you sent the Habs pick, with it likely top 10, the Canes would have interest, but otherwise, this gets laughed at</div></div>

That’s not too far off what Necas’ trade value would be as an RFA

Fiala, who was better and also the same age as Necas is returned the 19th pick and a good prospect recently taken in the 2nd round (Faber has obviously exceeded expectations but he wasn’t expected to be this good)

Debrincat as a 25 year old RFA last year returned a late 1st, a 4th, Kubalik, and a meh prospect. I think most people would say Debrincat is better than Necas as well

You can say the second piece needs to be a bit better than the Avs 2nd rounder, but it’s not that far off based on historical comps for RFA wingers