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Forum: Armchair-GM19 hours ago

Thread: Some thoughts

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>turtlemountain</b></div><div>Interesting. I thought this would be a decline for the Oilers even outside of Compher’s cap hit.

I really doubt Colorado would want to retain in a cup contention year, but they probably could if it’s just for 1 season. Avs actually have some flexibility this summer</div></div>

It likely should be a decline, but I'm allowing for some flexibility for the sake of discussion. I think Compher fits the profile of the kind of player Holland wants more of to go along with the Hymans, Yamamotos, and Foegeles- which is to say, the diligent workers that play with pace and attack the hard areas. On top of being in the right age bracket where players are at their most consistent and having shown well in the playoffs, he fits quite nicely as an acquisition target.

Full disclosure, I would much rather pursue other younger & cheaper targets.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 7:00 a.m.

Thread: Some thoughts

Due to Compher's cap hit, I wouldn't make that trade as is. The pick would have to be a 2nd or high-3rd for me to make the deal without some level of cap retention. In moving Jesse for Compher, they would be committing to paying a 3rd liner 3.5mil which defeats part of the purpose for trading him in the first place (cap flexibility).

On the plus side for your proposal, Compher is likely exactly the kind of player Holland and Co. would be looking for.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 5:01 a.m.

Thread: Trade for Connor Brown

Two revisions I'd require in order to get onside with that:

1.) 50% cap retention of Brown's contract (extra cap space to go all-in with as Brown is a UFA next year)
2.) Change the 3rd to Tampa's 2nd

If those two conditions are met, I could be amenable to such a deal, though I think they'd be losing quite serious value in such a trade.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 2:51 a.m.

Thread: No patches

That's gonna be an easy no from EDM :grimace

Forum: Fauteuil - DGYesterday at 2:49 a.m.

Thread: Oils

Why would you give up a 1st for Jake Allen? Also, Klefbom ain't coming back.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 2:22 p.m.

Thread: Post Fiala Sens

If a super late-2nd and an overpaid 7th D (reminder: EDM has cap troubles) is all they can expect in return, they had damn well better be keeping him. That's a pathetic offer.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 9:55 a.m.

Thread: Edmonton

Hot damn. No. Broberg for a 33 year old pending UFA goalie (ignoring the fact that he doesn't want to play in Canada) would be highway robbery by the Isles.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 9:54 a.m.

Thread: Making an unreal team

Given the established cost of trading Kassian is approx. a 2nd, you're of the belief that the price to buyout Keith's contract is a 1st and Lavoie? Yeah, that's a pretty absurd demand that I'd easily pass on.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 9:52 a.m.

Thread: Oilers

Much of this is woefully biased in favour of EDM (excluding the NSH deal which is just weird). The OTT, CHI, and SEA trades are skewed in EDM's favour and the VGK trade doesn't make sense as they've already gathered an ass tonne of LTIR cap with Weber and still have to remain under the 10% offseason overage allowance. I don't believe Klefbom helps them in any way.

Forum: Armchair-GMSat. at 5:22 a.m.

Thread: These get the job done

FLA isn't moving Knight at all, let alone for that paltry return.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 10:08 a.m.

Thread: A trade from an Oilers ACGM that I would 100 percent endorse

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>JP is a bad player, he is know as the play killer in the oilers dressing room, has little actual value

"Puljujarvi is deemed “a play killer” inside the Oilers dressing room, it is believed, where two of the best centremen in the world have not been enough to turn Puljujarvi into a legitimate Top 6 winger in the NHL. The puck dies on his stick in the offensive zone too often to continue to saddle Connor McDavid or Leon Draisaitl with such a winger on a regular basis.:"

OTT should stay away, if McDavid and Drai could not make him into a top 6 player, no one can.</div></div>

Yeah, Mark Spector is <strong><em>absolutely</em></strong> a trustworthy source. 100%. Never sensationalizes <strong><em>anything</em></strong> or pushes narratives for clicks. Not once. Never even crossed his mind. No sir.

I could elaborate further, but the following image should provide sufficient evidence to at least refute the asinine take that he's a bad player that's a burden on McDavid.
https://i0.wp.com/lowetide.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/JP-and-McD-.png?ssl=1

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 9:04 a.m.

Thread: Canes fans input is appreciated

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>turtlemountain</b></div><div>Not a Canes fan so feel free to ignore, but would imagine that the 1st/3rd pick swap is a bit rich here. Maybe a prospect swap or lower picks</div></div>

No worries! Input from individuals without a dog in the fight are also appreciated :) Thanks

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 4:45 a.m.

Thread: Puli goes to Ottawa ans the most realistic Sens off-season

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Koskinen_The_Great</b></div><div>You can buyout Kassian. The cap hit is nothing this season.</div></div>

And further to that point, in the following season, the cap hit is up at 1.6mil but that's during a season where, so long as Ken doesn't make a monumental mistake, the team will have plenty of space and only really Bouchard and Skinner/another goalie as major pieces to re-sign. Buyouts are less than ideal, but I'd argue that losing a 2nd is worse in this case.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 4:43 a.m.

Thread: Puli goes to Ottawa ans the most realistic Sens off-season

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Koskinen_The_Great</b></div><div>"You expected me to get Keith for free?"

"The market for Jesse wasn't there"

Somehow these quotes will make sense to Holland.

I'm fully prepared for Puljujarvi to be dumped for a 2nd or 3rd.</div></div>

And yet, before Jesse came back to the league, Holland wasn't prepared to accept a 2nd for him. Now that he's returned and showed himself to be a good NHL player, I doubt that will have changed. However, to your point, I guess I've seen stupider moves made over the past decade and a half.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 4:06 a.m.

Thread: Trading Pullijarvi for a goalie

Jesse is worth more than Raanta IMO. A 33 year old, pending-UFA 1B/backup goalie with a long injury history isn't what I'd call a compelling return for Jesse even if it technically fills a hole on our roster.

Also, the rest of that roster is concerning in its stalwart adherence to the kind of team-building practices that continue to have this team icing an impotent bottom-6.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 4:03 a.m.

Thread: PJ Barrie Goalie stopgap

DAL would be looking to add RD, not swap one out for another one- especially not a cost effective one like Jani. They're fine as a landing spot for Barrie but you'd be looking at getting a mid-round pick in return.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 4:01 a.m.

Thread: Puli goes to Ottawa ans the most realistic Sens off-season

The issue is I think people are going to disagree with your assertion that Puljujarvi is worth a 2nd. I view him as being worth at least a late-1st. Tough to say what his actual value is given the nature of his skillset and the understated quality to his game, but I wouldn't accept less than a late-1st worth of value. As for the Kassian portion, I'd sooner just buy him out than sacrifice Jesse to be free of him.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 3:50 a.m.

Thread: Jack In Our Box

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cody_tugak</b></div><div>https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/396170/antti-tuomisto</div></div>

Yeah, I Googled him already. What I'm more confused by is why you'd be so desperate to add him that you'd pay a 1st++ for him? He certainly looks like he could develop into something notable, but his current trajectory doesn't scream top pairing D or even certain top 4 D. That kind of package is what you pay to get the certainty of an established top 4 D.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 11:51 a.m.

Thread: Jack In Our Box

Who in the the good goddam is Antti Tuomisto and why are you so desperate to acquire him as to pay a 1st++?

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 2:05 a.m.

Thread: Sorry No PLD

EDM refuses easily. For a team in a cap crunch like EDM, Reaves is negative value and Gauthier is worth nothing.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 5:10 p.m.

Thread: Coilers

Important question: hu-what ****?

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 10:35 a.m.

Thread: Blockbuster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>fangm</b></div><div>Muzzin has value, Kerfoot has tremendous value, he was seen as almost equivalent to Kadri a few years ago and many still see him as a younger Kadri. Robertson is viewed as a top prospects arguable a top 10 player not in the NHL and will be traded or on the Leafs. </div></div>

Those latter two are some BOLD claims :grimace Clearly no bias here, folks.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 9:01 a.m.

Thread: Aggressive behavior

EDM can't afford that but maybe another team that needs a goalie would be willing to weaponize cap space in that way.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 8:47 a.m.

Thread: Blockbuster

No from EDM.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 8:15 a.m.

Thread: A couple of moves

Ye nah. That's gonna be a pass.

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