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Survivorking77

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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 4, 2021 at 11:06 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 5, 2021 at 6:03 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 23, 2020 at 9:39 p.m.
Thread: Serious go at this
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Survivorking77</b></div><div>I think if Tampa wants to make deals work with Cirelli/Sergachev then they will likely have to accept low return for a guy like Killorn like Vegas did with Schmidt. They couldn't even get anyone to claim Johnson off of waivers so I think they might be in trouble! I'm interested to see what moves they make this off season to</div></div>

Think VGK screwed themselves with signing Pietrangelo before moving Schmidt for better return. They needed to hurry themselves to get under the 10% cap limit (during offseason your team can be 10% over the cap apparently but after signing Petro they went over that). I think I saw some report about them having a solid deal made with WPG for Schmidt but it fell apart after Schmidt didn't agree to waive his NTC to go there.

I believe Killorn, Johnson and Coburn are the guys getting moved. I think they can dump Killer+Coburn for a 2nd rounder to a team like NSH or something. Dumping Johnson to some team he'd be willing to waive for is the biggest challenge.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 22, 2020 at 11:06 p.m.
Thread: Eichel - ALL PLEASE READ
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Survivorking77</b></div><div>Hey....that Bruins package (Debrusk, Carlo, Studnicka plus whatever else they need the Bruins would give up) looks a whole lot similar to the one I posted last night which you commented on as an "insane overpayment, bruins reject 1000x over". What gives lol?</div></div>

Lol fair dawg, But please read the point of my post.

The point is, VALUE wise its fair (like you are saying), but PIECE wise, its an overpay by the bruins. WHAT I MEAN by that is: Bruins arent trowing away their Cup finalist team and their entire future for Jack Eichel. It just makes no sense.

So ur right man, i did say that and contradict myself here, but its because i was tryna prove a point here lol

Good eye tho
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 22, 2020 at 11:14 p.m.
Thread: Blockbuster Eichel Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Survivorking77</b></div><div>Well sure, they have a choice...but say they bomb next year again and Eichel asks for a trade, is it really wise to let that requests fester for five years?

Obviously the smart thing is to sit and wait for the right offer to come around, like Colorado did with Duchene which they got a great haul for. I think if Buffalo played their cards right (which they have a tendency not to) they could get way more than that cause Eichel's value is much higher than Duchene's. Looking back and reading everyone's feedback, I would consider this mock trade as an underpayment, but I think it's a realistic start to a package.</div></div>

No one is saying to let it fester for 5years
BUT
Having that much time means they can wait until they get the deal they want (like u point out the AVs did with Duchene)
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 22, 2020 at 1:56 p.m.
Thread: Blockbuster Eichel Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafs_and_Sens_Fan</b></div><div>I wouldn't take Okposo's contract because Toronto has no cap space but I'd gladly send the rest of the pieces that would be a steal. I'd send Nylander instead of taking on Okposo if they wanted.

Nylander + Sandin + Liljegren + Kapanen + Mango + 3 1sts for Eichel. Buffalo still probably still rejects but I'd definitely do that as the Leafs.

That deal would be highway robbery for the Leafs but it's still a tonne better than this trade.

This trade is like that except take out Nylander and two 1sts. It's a laughable offer.



No he isn't. Pasta just has more goals because he's playing with elite line mates. If he was playing with what Eichel has been playing with he'd have less points. He is also worse defensively and he plays a less valuable position plus he has much less term on his contract.</div></div>

First of all, I would never do that Eichel trade from the leafs perspective. Maybe Nylander and Sandin and Kapanen. Or Marner straight up. Or Eichel plus Johikarju for Matthews. Literally no need for Eichel on the leafs. We have 2 top line centres, we don't need a 3rd.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 22, 2020 at 9:36 a.m.
Thread: Blockbuster Eichel Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafs_and_Sens_Fan</b></div><div><a href="/users/Bcarlo25" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Bcarlo25</a> You're right I don't know about all 31 teams. I don't know about Minnesota and a bunch of other Western Conference teams. But you have to know about more than 1 team to have a perspective about the value of different players. Obviously you don't have that as you think the Bruins top prospects are gems that would be top prospects on any team when really they are just B tier prospects.

Also I never said anything about Pastrnak being included in the deal. Although I think Eichel is a more valuable piece trading Pastrnak (a top 5-10 winger in the league) on a cheap contract would be counterproductive.



It doesn't start with Pastrnak but it certainly starts with a better piece than Carlo. Carlo's literally the best piece in this trade. Would you trade Pastrnak for Jokihariju, a couple B tier prospects (lets say Mittelstadt) and a low 1st? No... You'd laugh it off. That's exactly what I'm doing with this offer.

I can't believe you don't call yourself a homer...



Once again you're lack of knowledge about other teams is shocking. I'm talking about the Sabres having an excess of RHD. They are trying to trade out a RHD even. If this was Toronto Carlo would be a MASSIVE piece. Buffalo not so much.

I did say Carlo was the piece with the most value in this offer which includes a late 1st but Eichel is worth 5 Carlo's and this offer definitely doesn't have that.

I understand if you don't want to trade you're top line players but everything else has to be on the table. Coyle and Kase should be included in the deal.</div></div>

I wouldnt do it because A) Pasta doesnt want to leave. and B) Bruins are a contender
When you are the stinky sabres and Eichel wants to leave, sometimes you have to think more about the future than the present. Thats that :)
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 22, 2020 at 6:21 a.m.
Thread: Blockbuster Eichel Trade
As a fan of both teams, I'm pretty neutral here. Gotta say...this works. I would expect another draft pick of two as those picks will be really, really late with Eichel on the Bruins. Or add Krejci. Balances the cap and allows the Sabres to flip him for futures.

Deal will not involve Pastrnak or any real core players as Sabres rebuild and it defeats the purpose for Boston.

Boston absolutely trades Carlo and DeBrusk. Easier holes to fill, especially for the Bruins who have a pretty solid history of drafting and developing and making value trades that work out. They wouldn't miss a beat without those two (Carlo hurts more).

The depth they trade from is center which will be unneccessary with Eichel locking up 1C for the next 10 years or longer (resign is easy) so they're not giving up anything they can't afford to lose.

Boston doesn't pay less as Sabres don't have to trade Eichel even if he whines like a little girl which he won't do. He's grown up a lot in the past few years and has been very tactful in his criticisms. But even then, no big deal.

Boston makes this move partly to keep hin from other teams as well. Biggest value there as whoever makes this trade likely becomes an immediate frontrunner for the cup (as I can't see a team like the Devils outbidding teams that are right on the cusp).

Both sides walk away happy. Boston more so.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 22, 2020 at 2:19 a.m.
Thread: Blockbuster Eichel Trade
I understand the Bruins are giving up a decent chunk of their supporting cast in Debrusk, Carlo and Studnickas future with the team. Don't know Beecher that well but I'm assuming he's a solid prospect that would be a middle six/bottom six guy. Giving up a late first pick isn't the worst, not the same value as an earlier pick obviously.

Eichel is, by my accounts, the 6th best center in the NHL and will probably be a top 5 player at his position for a large chunk of his career (especially if he gets traded to a better team). I really don't know how Bruins fans are saying they would decline this as he would be the best forward on the team along with Pasta (pretty much in the same tier). Berg and Krecji are old and this gives them a centre with Boston connections that'd probably retire a Bruin.

I get that its a large payment but you'd be receiving a superstar for not even a star player but role players. Bruins can develop defense and their system allows dmen to exceed defensively anyways. Although Carlo could be a 1st pairing guy on some teams, he's 2nd pairing on Boston forever cause of mcavoy. So Boston is essentually giving up a 2nd pairing defenseman, 2nd line winger, middle six center prospect, beecher (whatever hes projected, as a recent late 1st round pick), a late first and a late 2nd in 2022.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 22, 2020 at 12:05 a.m.
Thread: Blockbuster Eichel Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>melloni17</b></div><div>The deal would start with Pastrnak and nothing less. The Sabres don't move him for potential star players. A franchise type player would be the starting point. And they wouldn't trade him to a division rival. He isn't getting traded</div></div>

Not yet anyway. The notion of Pastrnak is, of course, absolutely absurd. Eichel WILL get traded, it’s just a matter of when. I’m guessing it’s not going to be for quite some time. The Sabres have six years left with eichel if they don’t move him, and then he’ll never play for them again. I’m absurdly confident in that. When it gets to the point where the number of years they think it will take before they can contend is bigger than the number of years left on his contract, he will be traded.