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TCMonkey

Hockey 1st Sens 2nd
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Love talking hockey with hockey fans, not homers.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 6:41 pm
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 9:22 am
Thread: Dubois trade I WOULD make
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cbjthrowaway</b></div><div>In PLD's case though, that doesn't drive his price down. The Jackets have gotten calls from 20+ teams already. The only markets that would be considered 'smaller stages' than Columbus would be like Arizona, Florida and maybe Carolina, right? And "smaller" might not even be the right word. What he wants is a market that will treat him like a rock star.

Artemi Panarin's trade value went way down when he was about to leave Columbus because he was about to hit free agency and wouldn't sign an extension anywhere. Dubois has two years left on his current contract (under market value, too) and then two RFA years on top of that. Montreal can try to lowball based on being his apparent preferred destination, but Jarmo is in no rush to move him there for pennies on the dollar. There will be a bidding war, and I think the team that wins will be someone like LA or NYR.</div></div>

It's going to be interesting to watch, but I still believe the longer it drags out the less likely CBJ fans are happy with the outcome. Especially if the loses start piling up.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 7:13 am
Thread: Dubois trade I WOULD make
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Edmund0</b></div><div>Dude don’t want to come off as rude but honestly, let me put it this way. If your trading tkachuk, would you be happy with Atkinson, Riley Nash and 2 seconds. ?</div></div>

That's not rude, it's a fair statement. And you're right, only a crazy homer would suggest it was too much; I should've made that clearer. But, as an Ottawa fan, I'm well aware when a player demands to be traded, and makes it clear they want to end up in a bigger market, you lose a lot of your power in negotiating. The longer you wait for the perfect deal, the worse things get in the room. If CBJ come out of the back-to-backs with Tampa and Floria 0-4... they'll need to rethink the asking price or sacrifice the season. Also, I made it clear why OTTAWA shouldn't pay more. If I were the Rangers or Montreal or LA, a market Dubois would consider signing long term in, different story.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan 16 at 9:50
Forum: Armchair-GMJan 10 at 9:16
Thread: Cupp thoughts
Toffoli is a solid 2nd line RW, but he's 28, not old of course, but much older than Ottawa's future core, and two years older than their placeholders, Chris Tierney &amp; Connor Brown. Yes he's younger than Dadonov and Stepan, but they are temporary core pieces. Toffoli is inconsistent, but a lot of scorers are, he's just really hot and cold.

Harris looks like a nice find for Montreal, but would never be more than a 3rd pairing in Ottawa as long as Chabot and Sanderson are there.

Pinto is probably going to be a 3rd line centre, but that 1st round pick is going to be the best player in this deal.

1st &gt; Toffoli
Pinto &gt; Harris

Ottawa would decline this offer.[/quote]

THIS is worded far too nicely. It's a brutal offer for Ottawa. To add to ALL THE REASONS above, Toffoli would be 30 at the time of the trade and just two seasons from being UFA, which means OTT would likely only have him for one full season and need to move him at the deadline of his second season or get nothing in return. This is a very, very easy NO.