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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 13 at 2:22 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 13 at 4:48 p.m.
Thread: Hold at the TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeautifulIdiot</b></div><div>Ok then how would you value him? Keep in mind that you don't have much space on your blueline, you have more and better guys coming in the pipeline, and some contracts that will keep him out of the lineup and in the A. I put that out as a feeler, how would motte and a 2nd sound?</div></div>

Distinctly more than you've offered there. Blue chip RHD prospect who is arguably NHL ready and logically future EJ replacement for at best a third liner and a pick? Nah. Not a hope. Those contracts like Barron's will also be exponentially valuable in the future with the guys they have to sign. Realistically he's stuck behind nobody either. He could be in as early as the play offs or next year. Makar and EJ are the only two righties the Avs have.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 13 at 4:41 p.m.
Thread: All in Season 1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hii</b></div><div>Sens will need a special offer to move Forsberg because of the stability that he has given the Sens in net and has secretly been one of the best goalies in the NHL this year. So you're offer won't fly, TBH, they'll probably want to resign him to with Murray's short but eventfull history with the Sens. Me not being a preds fan but knowing Jeannot and the player I think that the talking point will be a first and a top prospect like Barron, Beherens, or someone else as he is such a key part of the team and fits their identity so well plus is very young, it is also to a divison rival so it makes sense that the price will be steep.</div></div>

As I said in a previous comment I went off the value proposed to me by a NAS fan for the Jeannot trade and added for the rivalry. He certainly wouldn't fetch Barron. Behrens/Helleson could probably be considered. I also doubt NAS would make the trade for the reasons you state about identity etc. I could easily see the Sens wanting to re-sign Forsberg but if they don't it will be a question of who bids what and there is a good chance the Avs get outbid I will give you that.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 13 at 4:37 p.m.
Thread: All in Season 1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PaulieWalnuts</b></div><div>If you’re just going by what McLeods page on capfriendly (salary, draft position, points etc), this would be a reasonable take on him. Superficially it is a very similar profile to Jost.

Unfortunately, it renders a grave misunderstanding of who McLeod is and what his strengths, weaknesses and limitations are.
McLeod is currently more or less at his offensive ceiling, what he is now is what you’re gonna get from him over the next 7-8 years.

He should develop into a premier shutdown 4C along the lines of Zach Aston-Reese, with better skating perhaps.
But you cannot play McLeod higher in the lineup, he's a 4C, nothing more, nothing less nad that's totally fine.
This is why Devils are so unlikely to trade McLeod, he’s of a completely unique profile within the organization. Again, this is also why there is no clear reason for Devils to trade for Jost.</div></div>

As I previously said, fair comment. However, those elements I based the trade on are some, and I only say some, of the elements involved in a hockey trade. I'd be very interested to see advanced stats for McLeod vs Jost as the two are pretty much identical on the surface. Nothing to do with cap friendly's page, though I would agree superficial. If your premise is that he's purely a shut down #4C then Jost probably still has a potentially higher offensive ceiling, not masive but higher, plus the third round pick so that kind of negates the argument. Guys who are going to be career 4th liners (and to my mind McLeod should be considered higher) if offered a similar player plus a 3rd for it would be a no brainer. Your argument may be valid but your premise is off imo.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 13 at 9:31 a.m.
Thread: All in Season 1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PaulieWalnuts</b></div><div>Jost isn't a good fit for the Devils.
They are trying to move middle six forwards out, not trading for them.
Not that Devils are currently looking to move McLeod to begin with.</div></div>

Fair comment. I kind of went with the idea of two guys, same draft, two positions apart, same age, Pretty much identical basic stats (haven't seen advanced for them). Both basically seem to have hit a plateau. Maybe the change of scenery would help both. McLeod is more pure bottom to middle six face off man at this point. Jost is utility across all three bottom to middle six forward positions. Both RFA in two years. Both can play up the line up if necessary. The third for the salary difference, but I'd accept it might not be enough to tempt the Devils.
Forum: Fauteuil - DGMar. 13 at 9:23 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 12 at 1:16 p.m.
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