Jan 18, 2017
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Connauton should be gone. Graves would make a better option at 7th D. One of Faulk or Braun is unnecessary, possibly even both. Timmins should occupy one of those spots and Meloche maybe, and certainly could be 8th D. Kaut may be in but he'll be where Kapanen is as he's more of a RW than a centre, even if CF lists him as a C, so that allows you to keep Zadorov who is your major D muscle. That makes signing Gostisbehere defunct, and rather than Braun or Faulk you therefore might as well keep EJ as your D corps leader, as he would have to have MIN on his 'yes list' for his M-NTC/NMC (and tbf it's probably one of the ones he may have on his list, being a Minnesota boy, but it's a moot point). There's always the chance that Nichushkin shows up properly which makes signing Zucker irrelevant as well or Newhook could possibly be in the mix somewhere, Greer if you want some muscle, Bellemare as a canny veteran, or Kamenev could be playing if he proves to not be made of glass. Francouz should probably get more if he turns out to be a decent back up. Rantanen is probably getting at least a smidge more.
So overall a D- at minus at best.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eli</b></div><div>That sounds awesome! I wish. I vaguely remember Janne Laukkanen? In those days in DC, you were lucky if you could get more than half of just the Caps' games on TV. Even when they showed up in TV guide, they'd bounce to another channel at the last minute, if the networks got a hold of some out of town baseball rights. :) Being the biggest hockey fan in school took all of watching thirty games a season and owning a pair of skates. It's amazing how much it's blown up, to the point where now DC fans are talking with each other online about how to watch world juniors and world championships, and even some AHL. But, like, sometimes when the Caps were in the playoffs, it wasn't on any local channels, and you'd have to go to a sports bar with a satellite dish to watch the home team play against New York.
ETA: The Nordiques, in those days, were awesome. Sakic was one of the first forwards (edit: that I knew of) to play power play point, and the passing on their power play was insane. The way they skated was ridiculous. People give Roy all the credit for their success, but any goalie on a team that hustled like that looked better than they did on other teams.</div></div>
Yeah, I'm showing my age there although I was just a kid. Try being the ONLY kid in school who was into hockey. At the time I could barely stand up on a pair of skates and I still won the biggest fan title! We had a channel called Transworld sport on satellite that we sometimes got the NHL on, Sakic had just arrived in the league and was the main reason I started supporting Quebec. My Dad was mortified. Eurosport gave us the worlds and Olympics. Many a night sat up with the 14 inch TV on with a pair of headphones in my bedroom trying not to wake my folks. Now it's a 48" and trying not to wake the neighbours lol.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eli</b></div><div>Thanks. Didn't think so, but I also don't think there's much chance the Caps trade a 19 minute a night, 20 point, 240 hit defenseman, with a 2.5M cap hit. Even if that comfortable cap hit is just for a year, they might only have a couple more years to try to repeat with Ovechkin, and a guy like Gudas (or Zadorov if you just wanted to swap him for a right shot with 50% more points and a couple more hits, last year) should complement the the style that Ovechkin and Wilson play, and give them a good chance to repeat.</div></div>
BTW, sorry to return to an old thread but are you old enough to remember his father Leo? Playing for the Czechs in the Worlds or Olympics, can't remember which, could hit like Radko, was tough but in the physical style without the gloves dropping. Good puck mover as well. Not sure if he wasn't their skipper. Drafted by the Flames but never signed or played in North America. A few others who were around then were Laukkanen for Finland (drafted by the Nords and briefly played for the Avs, couldn't understand why they let him go, was a good two-way D, bobbed around a few others afterwards with a few 20 point seasons if I remember right), and the Finns long term skipper, Timo Jutila, (drafted by and played briefly for Buffalo). You just couldn't move him with such a low centre of gravity (5'9, 216 lb). Some great D's who just never really got a chance. Seems crazy after seeing them in international play. They were the best D trio in the tournament, way ahead of most D the Canadians, Americans or Russians put out. The best goalie by far was Tosio for the Swiss who was never drafted. Sorry to ramble on a bit there as well. :squinty
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Chicago won 3/6 between 2010 and 2015, were they a dynasty?
LA won 2/3 between 2012 and 2014, were they a dynasty?
Pittsburgh won 2/2 in 2016 and 2017 and are considered a perennial contender, are they a dynasty?
It's really hard to consider the 1997-2002 Wings a dynasty when other teams have matched their achievements more recently and aren't labeled as such.</div></div>
That's my whole point, those are closer to dynasties than 4 in 25, and likewise why I said 'you could maybe argue' for the 97-02 Wings, and you'll never know how much it pains me to say that as an Avs fan! I did point out that the Oilers 5 in 7 and Red Wings 4 in 6 are dynasty teams. If you want the full list of those that are officially recognised as dynasties by the NHL and hockey hall of fame:
Ottawa Senators of 1919–27 (4 Stanley Cup championships in 8 years) 1920, 1921, 1923, 1927
Toronto Maple Leafs of 1946–51 (4 Stanley Cups in 5 years) 1947–1949, 1951
Detroit Red Wings of 1949–55 (4 Stanley Cups in 6 years) 1950, 1952, 1954–1955
Montreal Canadiens of 1955–60 (5 consecutive Stanley Cups) 1956–1960
Toronto Maple Leafs of 1962–67 (4 Stanley Cups in 6 years) 1962–1964, 1967
Montreal Canadiens of 1964–69 (4 Stanley Cups in 5 years) 1965–1966, 1968–1969
Montreal Canadiens of 1975–79 (4 consecutive Stanley Cups) 1976–1979
New York Islanders of 1980–84 (4 consecutive Stanley Cups and 19 consecutive playoff series wins) 1980–1984
Edmonton Oilers of 1983–90 (5 Stanley Cups in 7 years) 1984–1985, 1987–1988, 1990
Which is why I said maybe at 3 in 6 the Wings were close. Certainly versus the Senators at 4 in 8. You really only reinforced my point!