Jan 18, 2017
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Green4D4Again</b></div><div>Bad blood how? He got traded 1 for 1 for Elliot about 10+ years ago under a different management group in both Ottawa and Colorado. I don't think he burned all his bridges.
I think with Namestnikov's speed, he'd be a great temporary replacement for Rantanen on MacKinnon's wing. Value won't be much more than a 3rd.
The Pageau trade, if no conditions are met, is basically Jost, a 2nd and a 4th. That's not much for a 2nd/3rd line D centre all things considered. If Sakic doesn't want to subtract from his lineup, I'm sure a prospect would replace Jost. Maybe a Kaut?</div></div>
There was reputedly bad blood in that he felt he wasn't respected in Colorado. How much that holds over with ppl is down to the individuals of course. Sakic was the Skipper then and GM now so who knows? Namestnikov, like I said is 'meh', I don't see the interest, and like I said the value is fine, just I think there are far better options out there. Pageau it's a question of if the conditions ARE met not if they aren't. Jost and a first for a borderline #2C? Kaut definitely wouldn't be replacing Jost, that would make it even worse!!!
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yikes</b></div><div>I would expect the conditional would have to be lower. The sharks really want a 1st. 100% they would agree if it was unconditional <a href="/users/TJTwolf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@TJTwolf</a> maybe. 50% if it wasn’t.
Good discussion all.
It’s very interesting. I love Labanc I’ve raved about him since the colts days and how the sharks were lucky to get him.
I do believe it would suck to lose Labanc but this deal really is a great step forward for the Sharks culture of the retool and gives jumbo a legit chance to win a cup and helps Colorado even more so with Labanc and melker</div></div>
Just saying......the original was Kaut, Barberio, Annunen for Labanc, Thornton with retention and a 3rd.
Kaut, Kamenev, Barberio and a second (cond to 1st) for Labanc, Thornton with no retention, Marleau seems to be a much improved deal, no?
The way I'd look at it is you're moving two old veterans to give them a cup shot as a favour and getting back what you can for them, plus a pretty decent guy for a former first who is a solid prospect, a kid who may or not become a solid player (jury is still out on Kamenev, the injuries derailed him but he has the toolbox), a depth D and a second/cond.first. Avs get the veteran savvy for a one and done shot most likely, and of course Labanc as the centre-piece. Hell, Joe and Patrick could probably even re-sign again with the Sharks after lol.
Another option would be to switch out Barberio for a low-end fringe D with more years left like Lindholm, has some NHL experience, fits in the same kind of slot and RFA, so you've still got the option on him.