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Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 30, 2019 at 7:36 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 28, 2019 at 12:34 p.m.
Thread: Only Hall trade Id go for
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>rentals are only worth what a team is willing to give up for them.
There isn't much of a grand scale here on that.
You aren't talking about signing a guy who has 5 years of control left on him and is 24 years old.
The market on a highend rental is typically a 1st and a prospect type deal. Really high end gets a 1st and a 2nd.
Teams aren't going to tear up their roster for one, and they aren't going to sacrifice multiple years in the draft for one.

So when you realize the market itself has a cap, you can start to realize that it doesn't matter who the player is.
If they are a rental. If they aren't already signed long term. You aren't going to get the moon.
And no player, has any reason to sign that contract unless they really want to. They would rather have freedom to test the market and I don't blame them for that.
Which makes it really hard to get more than that.</div></div>

Oh, I don't agree with a trade above, but I think a Hall trade ends up with a 1st and a decent prospect going back the other way at minimum.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 28, 2019 at 11:45 a.m.
Thread: Only Hall trade Id go for
every Hall trade should take a good look at the stone trade.

Erik Brannstrom who was selected 15th overall in 2017
forward Oscar Lindberg and a second-round pick in 2020.

In other words. They got a hyped up defenseman prospect who was a mid round selection. He is under sized and that was the knock on him, so lets not pretend he was some generational player. He wasn't.
For a puck moving defense man at the NHL level, he has 2 points in 20 games this year. Just going to point that out. As I want everyone to be honest about that prospect instead of listening to some Ottawa spin on losing Stone. But either way it boils down to a mid round 1st.

Lindberg, where is he now? I think he was just a body coming back the other way.

and a 2nd.

I'm going to be really honest about this. If you think Hall is returning anything greater than that, you are kidding yourself. AND Stone signed a contract.
Most teams who aren't in the playoffs aren't going to pony up on a rental,
And Most playoff teams aren't going to give up the moon. I think VGK knew Brannstrom was under sized and would struggle, as most smaller defensemen do. There is a reason there aren't many in the league at 5'9.
It is what it is.
People have such unrealistic expectations here it is unbelievable.