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Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 31, 2021 at 11:10 p.m.
Thread: All problems solved
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>That like a last reaort option.

Many, many problems left...

That team doesn’t get into the playoffs, like in 2018 when Drouin was 2C...</div></div>

Hm disagree, in 2017-18 Drouin was actually forced into the 1C role that year (he had the most 5v5 ice time of any forward) on a truly awful team. This season's team has far better depth on the wings, it's not comparable at all, and Drouin would be better insulated playing behind Suzuki, who looks like a real 1C. Drouin had a fantastic season in junior playing full time center for Dom Ducharme in Halifax, and honestly did not do half bad at C in 17-18 considering the unrealistic role he was forced into.

If we can also bolster the center depth by adding a player who wins 50%+ of draws like Dvorak, I'm with mvp13 and think this could definitely be a good solution.

Also everyone wants to write off the Habs for playoff contention, but I say not so fast with a team that has a goalie tandem of Price/Allen and pretty good goal scoring depth at forward.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2019 at 10:45 p.m.
Thread: 2 UFAs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Frankyhabs</b></div><div>Agree with you Simmond COULD be a good fit for MTL. The problem is you need to overpaid these kind of UFA. The rumors says that 10-12 teams have called is agent. IF Simmonds wants to play in MTL for the good reasons and accept a 3 x 3 than yes ! IMO Simmonds was underpaid is hole career and he will want to make money.
Edit : Simmonds score 17 goals, only 2 more and he would be in the Kevin Hayes range :)</div></div>

True a bit like Pacioretty he has been very underpaid his whole career. If it's anything more than 3 yrs or 5m AAV than I pass for sure and wish that team that signs him good luck lol. I really think it'll be about 3 yrs x 4-4.5m though, I don't think any team will risk going higher than that.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2019 at 10:39 p.m.
Thread: 2 UFAs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I just wonder if Simmons is the next Weise. When the legs go, all the size and don't matter. As a Gardiner observer for years, I wonder he can ever be better than he is. Some team is going to pay what you did, just don't know if I want it to be my team.</div></div>

For Gardiner do you think it could be a good fit with Weber? His skating ability would seem to make him an ideal candidate. I can't say I've watched him super closely, and he's definitely had some atrocious turnovers under pressure in the playoffs, but wasn't he also carrying Zaitzev for most of the season? I just look at his skating and his numbers, plays big minutes, plus player, good point production, can play PP. Just seems like a good fit.

I would have to go back and watch some more Simmonds from last season, from what I've read it's injuries that derailed it. But I also think this could be the Eric Staal effect where everyone writes him off after a trade deadline move that doesn't work out. The guy was still comfortably on pace for his usual 20+ goal season before the trade and injury. I guess if he really has a lost a step and is a liability defensively than it will be buyer beware, but I would need to watch more tape to really judge that. Maybe some Philly fans would have a better idea? :D
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2019 at 10:29 p.m.
Thread: 2 UFAs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Frankyhabs</b></div><div>Joel Armia : 57 games : 13 goals 10 assists for 23 pts +0. Finish mentor, good on pk. BETTER NHL PLAYER FOR STRIP AND KEEPING THE PUCK WHILE BEEN ON PK. lol. 26 years old. RW
Andrew Shaw : 63 games : 19 goals 28 assists for 47 pts +17. Leader in the locker room. 27 years old. RW
Wayne Simmonds : 79 games : 17 goals 13 assists for 30 pts +4. Played with good teams. 30 years old. Need to be overpaid (UFA). *Brings size. RW
I rather keep shaw and Armia at RW and keep the $$ for a backup goalie, a LHD (maybe) AND for our young core that will get paid in 1-2 years.</div></div>

Fair points but why not have all three? At least just for the next season then reassess, maybe make a trade or two. Love Shaw but he had a career year offensively and still has a real injury concern, I'm not sure we can expect a 20 goal season. Armia is decent but his offensive upside is still very questionable, he's never hit 15 goals or 30 pts. Simmonds to me is basically a lock to get his 20 goals and add some much needed physicality to the group. I wouldn't go nuts and pay him 5m x 5 yrs. But 3 yrs in the range of 4-4.5 could be a nice addition.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2019 at 10:18 p.m.
Thread: 2 UFAs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I'd be concerned next year with no big expiring contracts and Domi, Juulseen and Mete needing contracts. Sure you want Simmons and Gardiner?</div></div>

Yeah I agree, have to be careful for sure. I don't think Juulsen will be a big issue, a bridge should work there, and maybe a bridge for Mete too. We're probably looking at around 8m for Domi though if he (hopefully) repeats what he did last season. For that reason we probably can't fit both those UFAs, definitely don't want to end up in a situation like the Leafs are in this summer lol.

I guess I would prioritize Gardiner because it's a bigger need, but I really think Simmonds could be a nice fit and bargain too. He was still on pace for 20 goals before his disastrous stint in Nashville, and we need the size and added depth at RW. Suzuki might be ready to slot in but I think I'd prefer that he continued to develop at center in the AHL for one season before making the jump to the show.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 26, 2018 at 6:55 p.m.
Thread: Unlikely but it would be nice...
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LoganOllivier</b></div><div>Weber has been on the decline for a couple of seasons. He is losing a step or two and didn't have many to begin with. He'll soon be a guy who has to just sit back and wait for the play to come to him cause he won't be fast enough to chase the play. As for Price, lets just look at a comparable like Lunquist. He's still good and can steal a game or two but he's a shadow of what he was in his early 30's. So yeah Price still has time left but each year will be a little creakier than the year before. Montreal has done a bad job of understanding where the NHL is going. Transformed a decent defence into one that can't skate or move the puck well. (Mete is the only one who can skate well, Petry's not bad either.) Bergevin apparently doesn't like centres to play centre and tries to force the job onto wingers. Its a mess and by the time the guys you drafted this year are ready to play, you are 2-3 years deeper into the Weber and Price contracts (both of which are terrible contracts).

Rip it all down and start over.</div></div>

Shea Weber last 5 seasons, starting with 17-18:
1) 25:21 TOI, 0.62 pts/gm
2) 25:03 TOI, 0.54 pts/gm
3) 25:22 TOI, 0.65 pts/gm
4) 26:22 TOI, 0.58 pts/gm
5) 26:54 TOI, 0.71 pts/gm

2 gold medals with Canada playing 20+ min/gm.

Carey Price last 5 seasons: .923 combined sv%, good for #1 in the NHL. Also 2 goal medals with Canada as the starting goalie.

I fail to see how these are two players in significant decline...
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2018 at 9:14 p.m.
Thread: Unlikely but it would be nice...
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LoganOllivier</b></div><div>This would utterly ruin any chance of the Canadiens being good enough to do anything for the next 5-7 years. Statsny is a 2C at best and isn't worth close to that much money, on top of that he's 32 turning 33 and will be a diminishing asset. With Price and Weber over 30 as well you'd have almost 25 million dollars tied up on 3 guys who are past their prime on contracts that can't be traded (No one would ever take on that much money on a diminishing asset.)

Add Alzner the Anchor's contract on top of that and the Canadiens would have 30 million dollars tied up and going no where.</div></div>

Price and Weber past their prime? I don't think so. 1 bad season and all of a sudden they're done? There's plenty of evidence that players of their calibre at their positions remain effective well into their mid to late thirties. What else should we do to upgrade the center position? We have two solid prospects in the system on their way, which will eventually push Stastny to a more appropriate role. The cap has been steadily increasing so I don't see his contract as being a major nuisance. De Haan is good enough to play with Weber and is only 27 years old. Duclair is only 22 and would be a good low risk/high reward type of move. And for sure we need to be patient and definitely not give up any picks and prospects right now, but we don't have to be an embarrassment again next season either. Given the parity of the league, this roster (if healthy and with everyone performing up to their expected level) would be competitive.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 6, 2018 at 6:26 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 5, 2018 at 3:13 a.m.
Thread: Stastny &amp; ROR Reunited
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>not only that he's already hit his career pinnacle</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sabres1108</b></div><div>Why would BUF do this ??? nooooo way</div></div>

2 years age difference between the two players, really not that big a difference...

Last 6 seasons (excluding lockout): Pacioretty gets to the 60+ point mark 5 times, 65+ 3 times. ROR 60+ 3 times, 65+ 0 times. Patch hits 30+ goals 5 times, 35+ 3 times. ROR only gets 25+ once. Both played nearly identical minutes, and also with subpar teammates, and there's a strong case that Patch played with worse.

I don't see what is so far fetched about this... Does Buffalo really want to be stuck with that much money committed to this player when their future at C is Eichel and Mittlestadt? And with Kane gone Eichel has no legit first-line sniper to play with. Patch got 30+ playing with Danault and Desharnais, how many does he get with Eichel? Mtl obviously needs all the help it can get in the middle. And both players have made it clear they could use a change of scenery. The fit is there for both teams.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 29, 2018 at 2:08 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17, 2018 at 8:02 p.m.
Thread: Random ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jdfitz77</b></div><div>Fair enough
Just curious as to what O’Reilly’s perceived value is around the league
I personally wanna keep him,
but some Sabres fans think he’ll be overpaid if Mittelstadt turns out to be as good as we think &amp; becomes our 2C

If u guys don’t get Tavares (u likely won’t),
and u try to get O’Reilly from us...
I’m guessing it would take either your #4-7 pick or Galchenyuk (assuming our GM likes him)
Or maybe a couple high end prospects?
Something like that anyways

Supposedly (according to LeBrun &amp; another expert- i forget which one), there is a lot of interest in O’Reilly IF we’d be interested in moving him
So u might have to outbid some other teams if u want him

We might not even move him though
Our GM says we are keeping him,
but i guess that’s what all GMs say...
so who knows?
Lol</div></div>

Lol yeah I think if I'm the Sabres GM I'd probably still keep him. I'd give up Galchenyuk in a trade for ROR, even though we lose on age, the need at C is just so great. Tavares is indeed a longshot, and I think Paul Statsny might be the only other decent option, so for sure the interest will be extremely high in ROR from mtl. Will be interesting to see how far Bergevin is willing to go...
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17, 2018 at 7:59 p.m.
Thread: Random ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wagsnags</b></div><div>Well ROR created this mess by stating in his year end presser (hard to believe that players now have a year end presser.... they never really say anything.... if they were more like John Mcenroe that would be interesting) when he stated that losing has become acceptable on this team and that he at numerous times during the season lost his love for the game of hockey.

That has created this environment from the fan base that he needs to go. I think they need to move him because he does not fit Housley &amp; Botterill's overall idea of their team. Fast fast fast carry the puck into the zone. ROR is not fast enough and due to this limitation he will chip and chase the puck in the offensive zone.

All I know is that I am tired of paying for my season tickets and getting a ho hum effort on the ice.</div></div>

Ah I gotcha, I didn't see his full comments. What are the biggest team needs that they will look to address in a trade for ROR in your opinion? Maybe D? Seems like with Mittlestadt and Eichel buffalo can be pretty good down the middle...
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17, 2018 at 1:33 p.m.
Thread: Random ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wagsnags</b></div><div>This is a horrendous deal for the Sabres......

ROR has 5 years reaming on his deal with consistent not spectacular produciton

Patches one year then UFA
McNiven 21 year old goaltender not what the Sabres need at this time
De La Rose a young center/LW who may or may not break out down the line
a 2nd Round pick

The Sabres have to say this is a hard pass.</div></div>

I agree lol. I don't know who the Habs could offer maybe Galchenyuk, Juulsen? Doesn't make that much sense to trade ROR in the first place but everyone in Buffalo seems to think he's gone... He would be a great fit for the Habs but I don't think they have the pieces to make it work.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wabit</b></div><div>2 or 3 years ago the Wild might have said yes. Now they just hang up.</div></div>

Brodin is not Erik Karlsson here, and they'd still be getting a very skilled offensive forward of the same age. This one I think is actually realistic.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 17, 2018 at 9:53 p.m.
Thread: 2 key moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BigBeardBurns</b></div><div>Oh, and Tavares would prob want more in MTL, just a side note...</div></div>

Yeah I wonder what kind of offers he will get, I feel like 12 mil for 8 years would be right at the top though. I can't see him getting McDavid money, being older and not quite as good.

I definitely think Mtl's only chance is to put the best offer out there though, plain and simple. And it probably has to be better than the next best offer by about 1-2m annually, then it becomes difficult to refuse for Tavares and his agents.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BigBeardBurns</b></div><div>U can trade Jordie Benn and Schlemko and get a 4th and 6th/7th instead of burrying them. Put a 2019 2nd on MTL’s side instead of the 2018 one on Edm’s incase this trade doesnt work out for Mtl (like Drouin, then they’re stuck with 6M on RNH). U can put some condition on it or something of u have to, but good trades.</div></div>

Yes a trade for Benn and Schlemko is what should happen, I was just too lazy to think of trading partners, returns, etc. lol so I just buried them, but they need to go.

I think it would have to be the 2018 pick in the Patch trade since that will be a high 2nd rounder. RNH is a really good young player, and I think it would take Patch plus another decent piece to get him. Just my feeling though.

Thanks for the comments!
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 11, 2018 at 1:47 p.m.
Thread: Wild trade for shits &amp; giggles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_fan123</b></div><div>not really</div></div>

Well I think it is, so there lol!

No but for real, at least it's a balanced roster, with a proper #1 C and and a better defense (that's because of De Haan's addition though), so there are no major holes in the lineup like we have now. If we drafted one of Tkatchuk/Svechnikov/Zadina plus added Draisaitl, and only subtracted Pacioretty from the forwards, our offense would be a hell of a lot better than now. It all starts from the center position and we are complete garbage there now.

On D, De Haan has proven he can play 21+ minutes and is a good skater, he should be right at the top of Bergevin's list if he makes it to free agency.

Obviously the big question is in nets, that would become an issue in the short term for sure. In the long term, it looks like we may have a found a gem in Cayden Primeau. All the top forwards in this lineup are 25 or under...
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 4, 2018 at 4:25 p.m.
Thread: Wild trade for shits &amp; giggles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Truebeliever</b></div><div>I don't hate it, but it's mainly because of the $6M of cap space that's still there. Talbot might be fine. The Habs could afford to try for Aaron Dell as a UFA (who might be a decent starter, too) and still have some cap flexibility to make an upgrade on D.</div></div>

Yep, and some of that cap space comes from burying Benn and Schlemko, but I am really hoping Habs find a way to trade them and get rid of their salaries entirely (I was just too lazy to come up with a good trade scenario for those two lol). Worst came we buy them out.

For the goalies I'd be betting on a tandem here. I'm not entirely sure either Talbot or Lindgren are well equipped to get it done as true #1s, but if they split the starts it might be good enough. Asking Reilly, Alzner, and Valiev to fill the 2nd and 3rd pair duties on a consistent basis might be too much here, but I still think it'd be better than what we had this season.

I think this actually makes sense from Edmonton's point of view too. Obviously losing Draisaitl is a huge blow, but it's somewhat telling that he's still playing the wing while RNH is very effective in his role of 2nd line C behind McDavid. Draisaitl is also not the fastest of skaters, and I wonder if this makes Edmonton reconsider whether he's truly worth the 8.5m he is getting. Giving #97 a sniper like Patch would be big, and then an all-world goalie plus a fast promising prospect on D would help them a lot too.

Obviously there are a ton of NMCs here that make this extremely unlikely, but after this season for both teams, I'm also not 100% certain that either Price or Draisailt will be untouchables this summer.