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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 28 at 5:00
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>What same approach? This team is still figuring itself out. Pittsburgh has succeed with a suspect Blueline? For crying out loud, their first of the back to backs they had Hainsey and Schultz as their top pair and then a bunch of other guys. They had nothing close to Rielly, Muzzin, Barrie, Holl, Dermott and Ceci, but they were older and had a good system and everyone bought in, because they had been through stuff together. TO changed a 3rd of their roster last summer, have dealt with huge injuries. Most of their current tenured Leafs have been with the team for 3 seasons. Apart from Rielly, I can't think of one player that was hear before Nylander?

You guys need patience.

The Raptors were a top team with Bosh, then took some steps back before getting Derozan and Lowry and became a top team in the east that couldn't ever get over the hump. TO is not even close to that point yet. They are in their 4th season since they finished last overall.</div></div>

The difference is those Penguins teams could still play defence. In 2016 they allowed 2.42 goals per game and in 2017 they allowed 2.79. The Leafs this year are at 3.27 and no team in the last 5 years has won the cup allowing more than 3.00 goals a game. I don't wanna trade Nylander for some top 4 bubble guy, I'd only trade him if it was for a legit first pairing 1 or 2 defenceman which is what Jones is so thats why I added that type of trade.
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