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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4 at 12:58 p.m.
Thread: Boone Jenner
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4 at 12:49 p.m.
Thread: Zegras Trade
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4 at 12:41 p.m.
Thread: Boone Jenner
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4 at 12:28 p.m.
Thread: Zegras Trade
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 3 at 10:11 p.m.
Thread: Is this fair
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 2 at 9:51 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>As a Detroit fan it's close for me. The biggest drawback for me is in the 4 previous seasons he has played in about 60% of the games and has already missed 12 this season. That's a whole lot to give up with his injury history. If Larkin knew Yzerman had a chance to bring Werenski to Detroit he might never forgive Yzerman. I don't think Detroit is in a position to make a significant move. A big part of of Detroit's core for years to come is still playing in the AHL and a couple in other leagues. Now Husso hasn't played a game since Dec. 18th but Lyon is playing well 5th in SV% and 13th in GAA.

The part below I copied and pasted from another one of my posts on the subject.

The goal this season was to compete for a playoff spot longer in to the season. If they do make the playoffs it's a bonus but honestly this team isn't a playoff team and it was never meant to be, especially with their D. Yzerman filled out the roster with UFAs when he could've gotten some better players through trades but he didn't because this team was never meant to be a playoff team. Now DeBrincat pretty much fell into Detroit's lap and they couldn't pass it up. Petry wanted to finish out his career in his home town and Detroit got him with $2.3M cap hit for Lindstrom and a 4th. So the 2 trades Detroit made were after the roster was filled out. Plus if Detroit makes the playoffs I wouldn't expect them to be buyers unless they can get someone who can help the team for several season to come. Now I've had a lot of people here disagree with my view. Saying there is no way they put a team together not to make the playoffs or there is no way they don't buy heading into the playoffs. <strong><em>But a whole lot of people here are very impatient!!</em></strong> With a direct correlation between players developed in your own system and long term success. Why waste prospects and picks to just marginally improve the team. Even if Detroit makes the playoffs and buys at the TDL do they make it out 1st round? Probably not they would be up against a better team with a ton of playoff experience.</div></div>

Really well put. I love seeing people be realistic about their team. Detroit is in a good spot for the future and it's really frustrating to see people in your own fanbase be so impatient, not unlike Columbus in some ways. (Gross incompetence like we've seen from Columbus HC/GM is a different story than realistic expectation for the next 2-3 seasons, but anyway).

Ilthis is obviously not an all in move or something, but it is giving up a big chunk of cap and super valuable young asset for more win now/next couple years type pieces. Could definitely be something that would help Detroit long term, but could be detrimental as well.

Was gonna add 1 more thing but forgot it haha
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 1 at 11:49 p.m.
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Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 25 at 11:18 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CaseyFlyman</b></div><div>In regards to the first part: my reasoning for leaning pro-moving Jenner is because I think he hasn't been the best captain/leader, and a shakeup there might shake up the whole room and organization. But it's got to be preceded by firing Jarmo and JD, which has turned into the ultimate boys club IMO. Few FOs have as much job security for as little on-ice success as those two, and the whole organization of old needs to go to move forward.

In regards to the second part: yeah, Elvis + Greaves makes too much sense for next year, and the fact that the FO has other plans is part of why I'm also pro-new-FO. :)</div></div>

Agreed fully honestly. I do think Jenner has those qualities (maybe not quite as much as some think), but there is a point to just shaking up everything and letting the young core really develop their own locker room culture as they develop on the ice considering how bad it is right now. I'd have big questions for anyone who isn't pro new FO at this point. If they're not gone after this season, there are big issues. I've been very in tune with Jarmo through the years as far as team vision goes. I like that he accepted they needed to move off of Savard, Foligno, ect and accept being bad for a few years. I even agreed that it didn't need to be a full on rebuild. I've just hated the specific moves he's made to a large extent. Trading for Laine, trading for Provorov, the coaching hires, on and on and it's long past an infuriating level. Initially, I didn't think JD needed to go too, but I've learned that he shares a lot of the same views, and even if that wasn't the case, he'd still have Jarmo's stench on him. I just really hope they don't mess up this cycle of hiring a new FO and coach this offseason. They've got so much to work with, another top 5 pick. With good management and some luck, the team could have an incredible future. Really hoping they don't miss here.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 25 at 10:42 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CaseyFlyman</b></div><div>Pretty much spot on again. The only hiccup is the current FO thinks Tarasov is the future in net (where I personally think it's Greaves), and they'd probably set his asking price a little higher. I'd be all for shipping him out for a mid-round pick and rolling with Greaves-Elvis next year.

What I'm thinking:
Jenner = 1st, A prospect (Minten) and likely a 2nd.
Tarasov = 4th
Sammy = ~7th to dump, but it makes sense to keep him if you can and see if he rebounds, or only move him as a cap casualty to upgrade elsewhere

So put it all together, and I think Jenner and Tarasov for Sammy, Minten, 2024 1st, 2024 3rd (NYI) and 2025 3rd probably gets it done. (assuming 2nd + 4th + 7th = 3rd + 3rd approximately, and again contingent on Jenner actually becoming available)</div></div>

I'm really split on moving Jenner (likelihood aside). I keep going back and forth between whether it's worth it or not. Ultimately I think the "right" move by a tiny margin is moving him. I think the fact this team is a couple years away from being any good and his age/injury history recently could lead to him being a far smaller factor than we may expect on the ice when the team gets to that point. So I think the upside of a guy like Minten and another late 1st + is really starting to make sense and maybe outweigh the benefits of Jenner as a locker room guy and leader. Not set on that by any means, but as far as "what's best for the future of the team" I am starting to lean that way a bit.

Anyway, I'm 100% with you on rolling with Elvis/Greaves next year. If they're gonna have to pay or retain to move Elvis, it just doesn't make sense at this point in time with how far away they are. Again, realism with this FO vs what I think is best, but Tarasov has had his chance as far as I'm concerned and we've seen he's not gonna be the guy. He's 100% got unlucky with injuries, but I've seen enough to move on. Elvis has been up and down for sure and has the contract, but he's dramatically outperforming Tarasov behind the same team, and the numbers are good enough that you'd think he'll be at least solid if they ever figure out how to defend. Then, Greaves has some issues with his size, sure, but he's so fantastic technically that I think he's got a really good shot to overcome it. Even if he doesn't turn into a "real" starter, I think there's a fair chance we'll see him turn into a solidified NHL player that'll at least be a solid backup or mediocre 1B. I don't see any reason not to go into next season with those 2 as your NHL pair personally, but the FO obviously has other ideas.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 21 at 10:08 a.m.