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Trevorchef

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If it swells... ride it!
Forum: Armchair-GMMar 18 at 5:00
Forum: Armchair-GMJan 14 at 5:18
Thread: Good Lines
Forum: Armchair-GMNov 27, 2020 at 12:07
Forum: Armchair-GMNov 27, 2020 at 11:42
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nighthawk</b></div><div>Agree JT signed @11m was obvious then &amp; now it would put pressure on the cap. Never understood the need to speedup the rebuild that was doing fine.

Was he is he good value? Not really
Did he fill a big need? Hardly
Did the signing compromise flexibility? No doubt it did.

The results have not proved out it was either good value nor the answer &amp; lastly the bonuses look like a joke now.

What if is always considered before taking the plunge.
Short sighted move that won’t end well.
As for AP I cannot lump him into today.</div></div>

I disagree, the rebiuld was done. Signing Jt was a good move, if they didn't sign him, they likely have Zaitzev on the team right now. And I would say he is good value. The leafs got him for free. They did not have to give up anything to get him directly.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trevorchef</b></div><div>Kapanen and Johnsson are not what I would call smart hockey players. Both on and off the ice. I got the distinct impression that they both felt that they were on the same level as 88, 16, 34, and 91 and they simply were not.

Both trades were the right moves. Pandemic and flat cap or not.

They made too much money for what they provided. They have been replaced accordingly.

I wish them well in the wars to come but, I have no problem with them not being on this team anymore.</div></div>

I agree. They were depth player that needed to go. They were not bargain contract that are supposed to be in the leafs bottom 6. You can't be paid over 2 mil to play bottom 6 for the leafs lol.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep 30, 2020 at 2:23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trevorchef</b></div><div>Well... for starters, let me say this. It isn't so much that I don't like the additions that you've made here. The contrary is actually true. I like the players that you have added.

I just don't see it as enough change to make a difference.

There is a larger problem that keeps getting pushed under the rug in most of these posts. The Leafs are spending 40 million dollars on four forwards. As much as I like the players, I believe that is a poor dispersal of financial resources.

I think that all of their salaries are for the most part reasonable dollar values. (Perhaps Marner is slightly overpaid but, that is another story for a day long since past IMO).

I think it would be in the team's best interest to trade one of those salaries to properly allocate finances better. (I know that is not a popular opinion and so be it).

Tavares has a no move. Matthews isn't going anywhere and after Dubas' comments about Marner, neither is he. Who does that leave?

I really, really like Nylander. So much so that, were it up to me, I'd rather trade Marner and use his 11 million dollars of cap space to shore up in other areas. We all know that isn't happening. So there does that leave us. Basically right here with what you have produced, or something similar, which to me, just isn't good enough. (Again, that is my opinion and I know it isn't a shared one for the most part).

I could go a lot deeper but, I'm not going to. Lets just say, that there isn't anything that terrible about what you have produced here, and agree to disagree as you have already said. YOu've gotta give something of quality to get something of quality and for the most part, what you have here just doesn't move the needle enough for me to believe that things will be any different.

Fair enough?

I wish you good fortune in the wars to come.</div></div>

I get the 40 million thing. I get it. I don't think it's easy to change. You aren't going to trade Nylander without a great return. And you shouldn't, because he's a great player.

So even if you move him for lets say, Colton Parayko in this case. You haven't saved much on the cap and now you need to pay Parayko and Rielly in two years. What the Leafs have right now is a lot of cost certainty. They know how long this core is setup to be together for, they only have a few negotiations between now and when Matthews/Nylander are up again. They know what their core is going to look like. That helps plan for the future (and if the cap had kept rising I think these deals would look better, can't predict COVID). The Islanders made the eastern conference final with almost 30 million in 4th line forwards and 3rd pair defencemen. At least the Leafs no longer have bad contracts to move. The players making lots of good money are good players. It's a better problem to have than desperately needing to commit buyouts or move salary right now.

The bigger issue I think we need to find it is, are they good enough? Even if they move Nylander to add Parayko or Ekblad, they are still a top heavy team. Is that top good enough to win? That remains to be seen. If they're not, you blow it all up and start again. That's a crazy idea. You need to give this core more time and add to it to try and help them be successful. And if it ends up that they're not good enough, then they aren't. But I think you have what you have and you do your best from there.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep 30, 2020 at 2:01
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trevorchef</b></div><div>Well... for starters, let me say this. It isn't so much that I don't like the additions that you've made here. The contrary is actually true. I like the players that you have added.

I just don't see it as enough change to make a difference.

There is a larger problem that keeps getting pushed under the rug in most of these posts. The Leafs are spending 40 million dollars on four forwards. As much as I like the players, I believe that is a poor dispersal of financial resources.

I think that all of their salaries are for the most part reasonable dollar values. (Perhaps Marner is slightly overpaid but, that is another story for a day long since past IMO).

I think it would be in the team's best interest to trade one of those salaries to properly allocate finances better. (I know that is not a popular opinion and so be it).

Tavares has a no move. Matthews isn't going anywhere and after Dubas' comments about Marner, neither is he. Who does that leave?

I really, really like Nylander. So much so that, were it up to me, I'd rather trade Marner and use his 11 million dollars of cap space to shore up in other areas. We all know that isn't happening. So there does that leave us. Basically right here with what you have produced, or something similar, which to me, just isn't good enough. (Again, that is my opinion and I know it isn't a shared one for the most part).

I could go a lot deeper but, I'm not going to. Lets just say, that there isn't anything that terrible about what you have produced here, and agree to disagree as you have already said. YOu've gotta give something of quality to get something of quality and for the most part, what you have here just doesn't move the needle enough for me to believe that things will be any different.

Fair enough?

I wish you good fortune in the wars to come.</div></div>

fair enough, I can see where you're coming from. Pre-covid it looked like the cap was on a steady incline making the big 4s contracts look not so bad in years 3-5/6.

I'd love to see them do it with the big 4 but if they can't Marner should be the first to go. hopefully the return is close to fair and nothing like the AGM's on here where the leafs retain 1.5 mill and get a second liner and a 1st rounder in 2022.