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Mar 6, 2021
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Genuinely hilarious takes from Hawks fans in here. I watch Kirby play, I dont mean to burst your bubble but Kirby will never be as good as Jack Eichel was in the 2019-20 season. He is in the matt duchene tier of centers, the type of players that consistently put up around 60-70 points per season but never much more. Jack Eichel is far more with over 100 points a season as his peak. Boqvist is a really good A- level offensive defenseman young player, but him + Dach and that first while also getting off the Connolly contract is far more than fair value for the Hawks. The only point of contention i have is just that Eichel doesnt fix our problems, if Eichel was say, Zach Werenski, an elite #1 two way defenseman, Id be far more willing to make a move like this (with less value going to CBJ than Buffalo would get) but the reason is because our issues are not scoring and offense, its defense. We are the worst team in the league at allowing shot attempts and were heavily bailed out by an insane start to the season from Lankinen. But looking at the value here, Dach is not Jack Eichel, and he frankly, never will be and considering hes not even a guarantee to hit even prime Duchene level, the 11th pick and Boqvist is absolutely fair value for Eichel alongside Dach <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy12Bob</b></div><div>Detroit is in a rebuild, they want to add players and picks not trade them away.
You're asking Detroit to give up nine (9!) assets and only want to give one back?
Raymond and Veleno together will put up more points than Eichel does, already there this deal is a dud.
You have to consider the needs of both teams in a trade not just your own wishes</div></div>
Opportunities to acquire a 24 year old center who already has multiple seasons over 80 point paces do not come by often. He’s the surest of sure things on the trade market and instantly raises the floor and ceiling of this organization moving forward. You could say “he didn’t do that with the Sabres” but the Red Wings actually have good prospects and young players like Vrana, Larkin, Zadina, Seider and Hronek who are already good right now. Nobody else the red wings have comes close to the ceiling of Eichel, unless you wanna suck these next two years and pray for Wright or Bedard. And besides, that’s still a possibility as you don’t trade your 2022 or 2023 first round pick.
On another note, what the Sabres truly lack in their organization is any level of prospect depth. The Sabres aren’t getting anything close to a player of Eichels potential in this deal, (even though I do like Raymond but he isn’t that level) but that’s why the deal is 9 pieces. To improve the depth of their prospect pool on top of a few high end prospect options. The Wings have boatloads of prospects and picks, this doesn’t even put a dent in their system while also guaranteeing elite 1C play for the next 10 years.
I agree with the premise of all of these deals. I just think the value is off here and there. I think you undervalued Hampus Lindholm. Kurashev is certainly a valuable young player, but I think you’re overvaluing Mitchell. I think the Ducks would prefer Beaudin and I still think that on top of that, that 3rd needs to upgraded to a second to make that deal go through.
I don’t think the Leafs wanna give up Holl, he’s been excellent on their second pair next to Muzzin and only looks bad when Muzzin randomly gets injured in every playoffs. I know that you think this helps the leafs expansion plans, but I see them going 4x4 because Hyman is a UFA. The question for value in that deal is murky. Holl has been a more effective NHL player so far, while Nylander has tons of untapped potential. I really don’t know which team is giving up the higher pick to get that deal done.
I can’t say anything bad about the Seth Jones deal, if he returns to true form next year, that’s fair value for both teams. Moving on from Boq would hurt, but if it meant getting Seth Jones for the next 7 years, I’m totally fine with it. And Strome is a good candidate to play top 6 center on a team that desperately needs centers.
Overall, really good, but I think you just slightly favored the hawks in some of these deals.