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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 22, 2021 at 3:47 p.m.
Thread: Realistic Blackhawks Offseason
I already know Jets fans are gonna hate that Zadorov deal. It’s hard to really know how front offices value him. The eye test community hates him and the analytics community thinks he’s just “fine”. Reichel and a 2nd seems a little much for me but I think that the team fit makes a lot of sense. The contracts seem fair to me, Hagel might get less (even though he’s definitely worth 2) and Suter might get more but I think it’s pretty fair. I think you can get more than just Bear for Strome and I also think anything that takes icetime from Boq is not in the best interest of our team. I do think a full year on the top pair in Rockford for Beaudin and Mitchell might be the best plan at least for the first couple months. No need to rush them when their rookie performance was only okay. I also think Kurashev might be an AHL 1C option too. Rather him do that than play on our 4th line because it would be a great opportunity to rebuild some confidence he seemed to lose by the end of the season. Overall, fairly accurate, but I also think the hawks should look to weaponize more cap. They have 15 mil in space after what you put together so I think they can get Neal in the bear Strome deal and also get a great pick or prospect from EDM.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 17, 2021 at 2:44 p.m.
Thread: Stop Saying the 2012 draft is bad
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Alfie11</b></div><div>5 is pushing it, you could maybe say 3. And there’s only 3 top line forwards from entire draft. A lot of drafts can be judged by how they started, and this one started with a bust, 2nd pair D, spare forward, and a bust. Easily the worst top 4 in recent memory, gotta go back to the mid-90s before there’s even a discussion to be had about a worse first 4 picks.</div></div>

Rielly is elite. Slavin is elite. Parayko is elite. Lindholm is the most underrated defenseman in the NHL and Matt Dumba deserves a chance to be a top pair guy. Who cares about which names were selected first on draft day. The quality of a draft class is determined by the quality of its best players, not its earliest draft picks
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 14, 2021 at 10:53 p.m.
Thread: new Eichel idea
Genuinely hilarious takes from Hawks fans in here. I watch Kirby play, I dont mean to burst your bubble but Kirby will never be as good as Jack Eichel was in the 2019-20 season. He is in the matt duchene tier of centers, the type of players that consistently put up around 60-70 points per season but never much more. Jack Eichel is far more with over 100 points a season as his peak. Boqvist is a really good A- level offensive defenseman young player, but him + Dach and that first while also getting off the Connolly contract is far more than fair value for the Hawks. The only point of contention i have is just that Eichel doesnt fix our problems, if Eichel was say, Zach Werenski, an elite #1 two way defenseman, Id be far more willing to make a move like this (with less value going to CBJ than Buffalo would get) but the reason is because our issues are not scoring and offense, its defense. We are the worst team in the league at allowing shot attempts and were heavily bailed out by an insane start to the season from Lankinen. But looking at the value here, Dach is not Jack Eichel, and he frankly, never will be and considering hes not even a guarantee to hit even prime Duchene level, the 11th pick and Boqvist is absolutely fair value for Eichel alongside Dach
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 6, 2021 at 8:28 p.m.
Thread: If you really want to play power right away
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy12Bob</b></div><div>This is a delusional offer!

<strong>Detroit is in a rebuild!</strong>

Detroit is <strong>NOT</strong> giving up 5 players to get 1.

Not even uf his name is Gretsky do they do that deal!

Detroit wants <strong>more </strong>prospects not to give up the few they have.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Giving up prospects and picks is something a contending team will do, <strong>never</strong> a rebuilding team.</div></div>

That’s not how this works, the Wings are in the process of exiting a rebuild as seen by their improvement over the last season, the bad contracts that are expiring and the infusion of talent coming to the team next year with prospect graduations. I can’t for the life of me understand why you think a team about to exit a rebuild that already has a loaded prospect pool as well as massive quantity AND quality of draft picks is not in a situation to make a deal for a young elite player.

If you don’t understand that there are levels to a rebuild, you’re just wrong. Obviously Eichel doesn’t make sense for a team on the decline or a team at the bottom of their rebuild. But the Wings aren’t bottoming out, they’re heading to the upswing
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 6, 2021 at 8:15 p.m.
Thread: What we could look like in 2023 if we tank next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Sure the deal benefits Chicago greatly, but sticks Winnipeg or whoever takes Keith with with a declining 38 year old defenseman with a bad contract for another two years. Teams aren't going to do that just for the heck of it. Look what Toronto had to give up to dump one year of Marleau's contract and tack on more because Keith's contract is worse.

Keith may have value to Chicago fans for all the good ol' days, but every other team couldn't care less about that "value".</div></div>

You genuinely didn’t even read any of what I said properly. So I’ll lay it out for you
1. After salary retention Keith’s contract is far less than half of what Marleaus was. It’s not even close to being as bad as Marleaus and I don’t understand how you could view it the other way.
2. I recognize Keith is bad, you recognize Keith is bad. Teams still value his leadership and experience, especially a guy like Chevy.
3. The only reason the Marleau deal happened is because the Leafs needed to pay Marner. That’s literally the only reason that trade occurred. Do you think they gave up a first just because? No it’s because they needed to pay their stars. The Hawks are not in that situation and in order for a team to get Keith, it’s because that team wants him. Not because the hawks want to get rid of him. If you don’t think a team should trade for Keith, fine, but the hawks will not be decreasing in draft capital for a player they don’t NEED to get rid of. And besides, considering what some teams are paying players, Duncan Keith on a 2.8 cap hit for a new team is far from the worst deal in hockey.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 6, 2021 at 7:56 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 6, 2021 at 6:35 p.m.
Thread: If you really want to play power right away
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy12Bob</b></div><div>Detroit is in a rebuild, they want to add players and picks not trade them away.
You're asking Detroit to give up nine (9!) assets and only want to give one back?

Raymond and Veleno together will put up more points than Eichel does, already there this deal is a dud.

You have to consider the needs of both teams in a trade not just your own wishes</div></div>

Opportunities to acquire a 24 year old center who already has multiple seasons over 80 point paces do not come by often. He’s the surest of sure things on the trade market and instantly raises the floor and ceiling of this organization moving forward. You could say “he didn’t do that with the Sabres” but the Red Wings actually have good prospects and young players like Vrana, Larkin, Zadina, Seider and Hronek who are already good right now. Nobody else the red wings have comes close to the ceiling of Eichel, unless you wanna suck these next two years and pray for Wright or Bedard. And besides, that’s still a possibility as you don’t trade your 2022 or 2023 first round pick.

On another note, what the Sabres truly lack in their organization is any level of prospect depth. The Sabres aren’t getting anything close to a player of Eichels potential in this deal, (even though I do like Raymond but he isn’t that level) but that’s why the deal is 9 pieces. To improve the depth of their prospect pool on top of a few high end prospect options. The Wings have boatloads of prospects and picks, this doesn’t even put a dent in their system while also guaranteeing elite 1C play for the next 10 years.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 6, 2021 at 12:04 a.m.
Thread: Kane and Toews Win Now
I agree with the premise of all of these deals. I just think the value is off here and there. I think you undervalued Hampus Lindholm. Kurashev is certainly a valuable young player, but I think you’re overvaluing Mitchell. I think the Ducks would prefer Beaudin and I still think that on top of that, that 3rd needs to upgraded to a second to make that deal go through.
I don’t think the Leafs wanna give up Holl, he’s been excellent on their second pair next to Muzzin and only looks bad when Muzzin randomly gets injured in every playoffs. I know that you think this helps the leafs expansion plans, but I see them going 4x4 because Hyman is a UFA. The question for value in that deal is murky. Holl has been a more effective NHL player so far, while Nylander has tons of untapped potential. I really don’t know which team is giving up the higher pick to get that deal done.
I can’t say anything bad about the Seth Jones deal, if he returns to true form next year, that’s fair value for both teams. Moving on from Boq would hurt, but if it meant getting Seth Jones for the next 7 years, I’m totally fine with it. And Strome is a good candidate to play top 6 center on a team that desperately needs centers.
Overall, really good, but I think you just slightly favored the hawks in some of these deals.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 27, 2021 at 1:15 a.m.
Thread: Blackhawks Prospect and Youth Pyramid
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>He's also 20 years old. Dach is all day a franchise talent. The question is, after being rushed last season and injuries this year, when will he put it together.

Mitchell should be up a tier. For one, he had more pedigree then Wyatt Kaiser in the NCAA. Two, keep in mind he's in his first pro season (abbreviated season). Let's see the kid play a full season first.

It seems with your rankings that you are mixing up what a kid shows in the juniors or college versus being rushed into action in the NHL and not being an immediate impact player and shoe-in. Dach as example. For all intents and purposes, Dach is the definition of a franchise player. Mitchell being rated lower then Kaiser is another good example. Mitchell was more recognized in the NCAA as a top defender then Kaiser currently is, so because he was rushed into action and you didn't think he was a stud out of the gate you're saying Kaiser is now higher? Don't you think if Kaiser played this season in the NHL he'd look worse then Mitchell? I think you are missing the entire development piece of a player transitioning to the NHL. Boqvist, a prime example of what happens when a player is rushed...he looked bad last year, had a lot of bad moments this year but some good ones, next season should improve again. Dach and Mitchell should be the same and Kaiser will look out of place when he (if he) transitions to the NHL. Very very few players jump right in and look fantastic, those are the elite ones like Cat, Kane, McDavid, Matthews, etc. but the vast majority take a long time like Keith who didn't look very good his first season or two yet is a HOF elite player.</div></div>

I’m really not sold on Ian Mitchell, I’ve been watching him for years and the upside really is not there. I don’t see him ever becoming much more than a 3rd pairing guy, but he could play in the NHL for a while in that role. He has very little polish to his game in either the offensive or defensive zone. His only high quality trait right now is his puck moving. It also doesn’t help that when Kalynuk and Beaudin played in the AHL, they absolutely destroyed the league. Meanwhile, Mitchell was far worse in his time down in the minors.
Kaiser has far more potential than Mitchell, he was a major boom/bust prospect coming out of the draft. Truly an elite skater with some of the best endurance in a college hockey player. I’d even say that outside of Boqvist, he has the highest upside of any defenseman in our organization, the likelihood of hitting that ceiling is low which is what caused him to go lower in his draft class and why he’s only a tier 3, but given how great he was in his first college season, I’m expecting a lot.
Also worth mentioning that Mitchell essentially flatlined in his development across his three seasons at Denver, Kaiser still hasn’t scratched the surface of what he’s truly capable of.

As for the Kirby stuff, is he really ever gonna be better than peak Nuge, Duchene, or Johansen? They were 60-70 point players at their best and that’s what I see as the ceiling for Kirby. That’s not a tier 1 player in my eyes if that’s the best you can be. Fringe 1Cs who were really good 2Cs. I don’t see Dach on the level of Matthews and McDavid or even prime Stamkos or Tavares. He’s not that, he’s closer to the Duchene level.


(Btw: The tiers are based on a combo of potential and likelihood to hit said potential. If I was basing it off current quality, the top of the pyramid would be exclusively current NHL players and that’s not fun when projecting the future. I did have Mitchell in tier 3 last year, but after watching him a full season in the NHL, there’s just a lack of Top 4 defenseman skills)