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Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 21, 2022 at 8:14 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 19, 2022 at 10:42 p.m.
Thread: After jack hans article
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SlevinKalevra</b></div><div>Mayfield is better than Hakanpaa but I don’t think it’s a massive difference. Not enough of a difference for those picks. I realize Chairot and Savard got returns like that, but those were over pays imo. If somebody wants to pay that much for Mayfield (and it isn’t Dallas) I will be happy for the Isles as I do like the team and most Isles fans are pretty solid to talk to, yourself included. I understand your thought process on 2RD. I just don’t care for the trade. I don’t think Dallas is good enough to be trading first or even second round picks. Obviously need to see how things go under DeBoer, but I’d be very surprised if the need on the back end wasn’t for an offensive dman</div></div>

Not a bad call
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 18, 2022 at 6:05 p.m.
Thread: Ideal lines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>Not at all because EH doesn’t just have one chart, there are many different metrics that you can use to come to a conclusion on a player. Jfresh is just one player card that can’t even accurately show what quality of competition the player is up against.

You’re trying to take shots at analytics now because better analytics platforms have shown that Pageau is not close to an 87% WAR player.

This is common for people like you who don’t understand all the different metrics. You post a chart that you found on Twitter when you don’t understand anything about it, someone posts more accurate metrics and you get defensive and then ignore analytics entirely.</div></div>

Lmao your own analytics say that pageau is in the 69th percentile in total offensive war. Yet you called him a black hole offensively and say hes bad. So whos ignoring analytics and getting defensive?
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 17, 2022 at 7:08 p.m.
Thread: After jack hans article
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SlevinKalevra</b></div><div>Mayfield is better than Hakanpaa but I don’t think it’s a massive difference. Not enough of a difference for those picks. I realize Chairot and Savard got returns like that, but those were over pays imo. If somebody wants to pay that much for Mayfield (and it isn’t Dallas) I will be happy for the Isles as I do like the team and most Isles fans are pretty solid to talk to, yourself included. I understand your thought process on 2RD. I just don’t care for the trade. I don’t think Dallas is good enough to be trading first or even second round picks. Obviously need to see how things go under DeBoer, but I’d be very surprised if the need on the back end wasn’t for an offensive dman</div></div>

Thats a fair point. Guess i misunderstood your original comment my bad
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 17, 2022 at 7:06 p.m.
Thread: Ideal lines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>because it includes his 19-20 season with Ottawa where he played with top 6 forwards like tkachuk and duclair as well as shooting like 8 goals above expected. He was boosted by his linemates which put him at 85 overall in 19-20 for offense.

Pageaus offense was 62 and 61 the last two most of his value represented by shooting. His play driving offensively is a huge weakness which is why context is important. Can't just look at jfresh's EV Offense and come to a conclusion on his offensive impact. You should look at all the available data and form your own opinion...it's hilarious that you were the one that brought analytics into this , are worshiping Jfresh's player card and can't think for yourself on this topic. Ironic. You sound like a liberal who calls everyone a fascist for not seeing things the same way. Look in the mirror bud.</div></div>

Got it so 62nd percentile and 61st percentile which is well above average is now considered a "black hole offensively". Good to know youre very objective and not at all narrative driven with your analysis of players.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 17, 2022 at 11:31 a.m.
Thread: After jack hans article
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>Toronto doesn't need Valarmov, And it was already reported that all Canadian teams are on his 16 team no trade list.

Hot trash offer for Timo Meier, No way San Jose accepts that offer.</div></div>

Like i wrote in the description if you had any care to read it, it could be any team. As for their need for varlamov considering theyre trying to win a cup with matt murray and ilya samsonov i would calm down just a little with saying they dont need an upgrade.
Just like your lack of logic with the 1st half of your statement, you again display a lack of sensibility with this side of it. Look at the trades made recently for 1st line wingers and please tell me how this deal is so much worse than any of them? But you cant bc you dont let actual deals that happen irl affect your valuations of trade values. You decide what you think a player shoild be worth instead of using comps to try to determine what a player is worth.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 17, 2022 at 11:22 a.m.
Thread: After jack hans article
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>In the absence of a top 10 pick, San Jose is going to want the closest thing to a sure thing they can get. SJS may still get some great prospects in the 20s of the 2023 draft, but it's not the kind of player they could get with a lot pick. They may ask as high as a Romanov or potential superstar in Raty in the absence of another late first.

To acquire a bubble elite RFA is going to hurt, whoever can pry him from SJS. And SJS has to admit that their window has closed, which they are still publicly stating they are in compete now mode.

As for money, I figure in the 9-10 range, assuming he shows last year wasn't a fluke.</div></div>

Stop it. 9-10 range that means you think he gets money like gaudreau and tkachuk. Does he get close to barkov/point? And those guys are Cs. Answer is obviously not. I think youre much more in the robert thomas/jordan kyrou/kevin fiala range than you are with barkov/point/tkachuk.
I understand the want of a close to sure thing which this package doesnt really provide, but i think from a pure value standpoint it works. Though i do get that the lack of a top 10 pick or top prospect regardless of value could be a dealbreaker.