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Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 22, 2022 at 1:34 a.m.
Thread: Bored and playing around again
Trying to fleece Stevie Y. seems improbable. He could have had Schmidt for a 3rd before, why would he want him now? Seems like the Wings are in on Petry. They can bring back Staal and De Keyser, bring up Edvinsson who is a blue chip prospect, and still have Mac Isaac for depth. If I am Stevie Y. I'm looking at spending money on a guy like Palat or Copp, not Schmidt.

Jets have never traded a developing prospect that didn't ask to be traded, and with Gustafsson wearing the A on the Moose, pretty sure he's joining the big leagues next year. Barron isn't jumping ahead of Lowry, he might be his winger. Nothing indicates that the Jets are planning to make him a 3C.

I like getting Pulock for Scheifele. Addresses a need. But the one guy who could probably convince Strome to sign here is Scheifele. That would be the biggest free agent signing in Jets history. I'm not optimistic about improving the Jets in free agency.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 5, 2022 at 3:31 a.m.
Thread: Assuming Chevy does nothing
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BatVader</b></div><div>These moves do nothing for WPG…while they don’t hurt us, they don’t help either.
I wouldn’t do them.
If your intent on trading Vesalainen, which i agree with as he needs a change of scenery, then at least trade him for some value.
I’d try VGK for Nolan Patrick or PHI for Owen Tippett</div></div>

Reality is that Vesalainen probably won't come back to the Jets. Gustafsson is definitely coming up to the team next year. So you either move Harkins or Vesalainen, because there's still a roster spot available for a Kovacevic, Barron, Heinola, Reichel to fill. Let's say Vesalainen doesn't get a 1 way contract with the Jets, so he decides to go play in Finland again. Jets lose him for nothing. Same as Nathan Smith getting something instead of nothing is a win. I'd say the same scenario might be in store for Gawanke. Does he want another $70 000 season, does he get a raise from the Jets, at least double the AHL salary? I'd be more inclined to keep him, because he's been good with Chisholm, but with Tyrel Bauer coming into the lineup next year somebody has to move off the Moose, if Kovacevic goes up, fine, but then that's 23 players then, and which of the other ones would Vesalainen knock off? None, in my opinion. Time to move on, call a bust a bust. I don't think his skating is good enough, and I definitely don't think he has anywhere near the value of Patrick or Tippett, I'm sorry. I edited this post anyways cancelling the Gawanke trade, but moving Dillon instead, to build up picks in the system. And to give room to Heinola to move up to the #8 spot on the depth chart.. Signed a tougher player for the bottom lines than Vesalainen, which I think might be something Chevy looks at.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsMar. 7, 2022 at 6:07 a.m.
Thread: Something for everyone
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>No from Winnipeg. The Jets might have interest in Tippett, but there is no reason to overpay drastically for him.</div></div>

Considering Schmidt has been traded for 3rd round picks in consecutive years, there may be a problem with him. I would move him to bring up Heinola in an instant. Heinola can audition at RD, or if the Jets find themselves needing a RD they can transition Dillon or Morrissey to ease him in. For the Yotes who haven't exactly been gamebusters on the free agency market, and are about to lose alot of UFAS, Schmidt replacing Chcycrun would only put the Yotes at $38 million in Salary Cap (11 players) for 2022-23, so still a good ways from the minimum floor, and he'd be a #2 behind Ghost, whereas he is an overpaid #3-5 in Winnipeg.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 6, 2022 at 3:18 a.m.
Thread: Rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Canoehead</b></div><div><strong>Blackhawks</strong>: I can't see them doing that trade, as the new Chicago GM wants to rebuild the team. The term of Wheeler and Schmidt don't fit that view and Toews only has one year left on his contract after this one.

<strong>Senators</strong>: Jets decline, with Cheveldayoff telling LeBrun, "I spent a long time trying to get top-two centremen like we have right now with Scheif and (Pierre-Luc) Dubois. That’s a real tough combination when we’re going well to play against"

<strong>Flyers</strong>: Jets decline. No chance the Jets have any chance of making the playoffs in the near term without Hellebuyck.

<strong>Blue Jackets</strong>: Not sure what the thought process is behind that trade idea.

<strong>Maple Leafs</strong>: Jets decline. No need to move Berdin, let him continue to develop on the Moose.</div></div>


Jets problem is they are 2 years away from losing several core players (Scheifele, Hellebuyck, Wheeler, De Melo). The injury excuse is valid for the team's struggles this year, but they have been struggling from mediocrity (the minuses behind Scheifele and Wheeler's stat line, and Hellebuyck has leveled off this year) for some time. Another year of medicority pushes the team to trading players whose value could further depreciate. At this point with the investment that was made this year I think this team needs a shakeup. Dubois is ready to take over the reigns as #1 C, and I don't think Scheifele is ready to become second fiddle, so unless you make him a winger on the top line, I think it's time to change things up. I don't think the changes will be this drastic, True North has only traded when forced to, but I do think this team needs some fresh young legs to make them as exciting as they were in 2017-2018
Forum: Winnipeg JetsFeb. 6, 2022 at 3:03 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 3, 2020 at 4:00 p.m.
Thread: Jets offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>masterjuddi</b></div><div>Personally I don't want to see Buf play for another franchise, especially not the wild. Im hoping for a Wheeler, Scheifle Buf fishing trip in NW Ontario where they convince him to go on the keto diet and come back for one more year</div></div>

Yeah I don't really like that scenario. But I think there is something fishy in the room, that makes Buff an outsider. And he doesn't want to play here, Jets either terminate him, or trade him. I can't see him wanting to go far, since fishing Lake of the Woods is what he likes to do. I was trying to get the Jets a draft pick out of him at least, because the cupboards are really getting bare. 4 draft picks in a strong draft, hard to make an impact like 2015.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 3, 2020 at 3:56 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 2, 2020 at 11:47 p.m.
Thread: Jets offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tsyls</b></div><div>Uh Samberg will be on an ELC....

MIN never does that.

Harkins is no where close to being 2C.</div></div>

Samberg is going to get a contract similar to Makar and Fox. Which is burning the first year as a bonus. Jets will have to give him some bonuses to get him to sign.

Harkins is probably not a 2c but he deserves a look. Jets can move a few players into that spot. I think Gustafsson is another candidate. It's Little's contract that looms big. No one knows where he is at. I was just trying to do a budget team with him in consideration, if he returns.

I have no idea what Minnesota would do. I think Buff can control where he goes, and I don't think he really wants to go far, but who knows? For Minnesota that's a good trade, they get the better player for cheap. And a guy who scares the bejeesus out of half the league. I was trying to get draft picks for the Jets, which I think they really need.