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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2018 at 2:58 p.m.
Thread: EK65 to NYR w/ extension
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SuprDave45</b></div><div>While I can't necessarily argue with the values at first glance, I don't think the Rangers are going to want to give up 2 high end LHD and get one RHD in return. In addition, your asking for the Rangers most established D man, which is essentially leaving them at square one with a hole on their first pair. Finally, the Rangers are also taking Ryan's 7.25m contract in return, that doesn't happen for free, so that should have an impact on the value you get in return.

Deal with Ryan included:
2020 1st
2019 4th
Libor Hajek
Vlad Namestnekov

Deal without Ryan included:
2020 1st
2019 2nd or John Gilmour, Ottawa's choice..
Libor Hajek
Vlad Namestnekov</div></div>

i agree with everything you are saying: the problem is that with NYI,VGK,SJS,TBL,NYR+ a few others all bidding for his services now it is not going to be a "fair" trade.


Skjei replaces EK65 and Hajek is in their pipe line to develop.

Namest is the cherry on top.

I would change the 2019 1st to the 2019 conditional second from TBL upon aditional review.

We lose the trade but at the end of the day we get A cornerstone player and it makes NY way more attractive for others to follow
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 29, 2018 at 12:31 p.m.
Thread: NYR-TOR megadeal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hero9154</b></div><div>I honestly believe they went with Andersson last year because they though he would be NHL ready and able to slide into the 3C slot which is why they took him over higher upside/more talented guys in Vilardi and Middlestat. Now if they could redo last years draft with the foresight of the last 12 months, without a doubt they take Vilardi and Middlestat over Lias. I agree that he has future captain material and can play in all situations but what the Rangers are missing are elite scoring wingers which Nylander completely makes sense but Gordie and Gorton are very high on Kravstov.</div></div>

i dont know, i dont think that is true. Middlestat looks like a star but at the end of the day they might be comparable players. Im even less high on Vallardi. Andersson is a hockey player he may not be 90 points a year but hes a piece of a winning team and he had a pretty incredible year himself last year
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 29, 2018 at 10:54 a.m.
Thread: NYR-TOR megadeal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LoganOllivier</b></div><div>I understand where you are coming from, and many would agree with you. However, I feel the Leafs can likely get Nylander signed for 8 years at 7 million and that contract will look amazing if Nylander progresses into a point a game guy. (which if you are a believer in advanced stats, he almost should have been a 30 goal 40 assist man but had bad puck luck to start the season. ) In 3 years his 7 million contract could be one of the best in the league.

That sort of production can't get replaced for that much money. I say keep him unless someone comes in and really overpays for him. For example if Minnesota game in and gave Dumba + for Nylander, that is something you'd have to consider.</div></div>

Yea i wouldnt be comfortable trading Skjei+ so i see where the maple leafs team needs come in. will be interesting first 12 months for Dubas if he can nab JT
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 29, 2018 at 10:53 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 29, 2018 at 10:37 a.m.
Thread: NYR-TOR megadeal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LoganOllivier</b></div><div>Absolutely no way TO trades Nylander for a guy they won't resign and a guy no one knows if he'll pan out. If TO gets Tavares, and thats a big if still, Nylander won't be the one to be traded. They'll move out depth guys for next years cap crunch and have cap room to upgrade spots in 2 years if young players rotating in can't handle the NHL. They'll have to be creative but its definitely doable. Trading Nylander would only happen if the Leafs got the better of the deal. Not because the guys you mentioned aren't good players but TO is just a better team with Nylander on it than off it. It only makes sense to move him if you are bettering your team.</div></div>

extremely fair, i agree i think you keep Matthews,Marner,Nylander and Reilly and dump anyone and everyone else necessary but Zuc would replace Nylanders productivity next year almost directly with an option to re-sign at his affordable rate and then Kravstov would be a flyer. I'd throw in a B+ prospect as well not that it would make a huge diff
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 29, 2018 at 9:54 a.m.