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Forum: Armchair-GMSat at 8:35 pm

Thread: Going Off The Rails - ADDING - Gallagher - Wood - Fleury

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jesus</b></div><div>Yeah that's why I think a Price trade is impossible because obviously he's not playing up to his contract but for sentimental reasons and the fact that his contract is so large means that he'll probably retire as a canadien. He seems to be one of those guys who every other year have a bad year. I want the Penguins to make a run at Danault since he's a free agent in 2 years and you guys have so many centers coming up like Kotkaniemi, Suzuki, Poehling, Domi, etc. It would probably take a lot to get Danault but I think he's one of the best two way centers in the league</div></div>
Although Danault is very important to the team right now, I don't think he's untouchable. You would need MTL to admit they're not going to win in the next 2 years for such a trade to happen though.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 6:19 pm

Thread: Going Off The Rails - ADDING - Gallagher - Wood - Fleury

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jesus</b></div><div>Habs fans are actually the biggest idiots on this site and I don't think there is a close second. If you need more evidence look at the trades they make for Price. They have no concept of trade value in the slightest</div></div>
To be completely fair, Price's trade value is one of the hardest to judge due to inconsistency and contract size. Whereas for Gallagher, the problem is that he's worth much more to the Habs in intangibles than he's worth to any other team, causing us to overvalue him. Even if he doesn't have the "C" on him, he's the true captain of the team, and makes a huge difference in the team's morale when he's in the lineup. For us, he's not just worth his 62pt pace--it's more than just points.

So there's no point including him in a trade

Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 12:57 pm

Thread: Price and Seattle

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BorisBagel</b></div><div>Seatle will probably take Alzner ... like Vegas took Emelin (without any added incentive from Habs)</div></div>
No, bad comparison. Emelin was playing in the NHL and kept playing in the NHL after being picked. Alzner gets scratched in the AHL every now and then.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 12:55 pm

Thread: Just Humor me would of could of

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sebybbqpower</b></div><div>The Habs wouldn’t even touch Gourde with a 50 feet stick. Thats was on of the worst Yzerman moves. He didn’t make a lot of them but that one will hunt them for a while.</div></div>
Can someone explain the Gourde situation btw? He's still hovering around 0.5ppg while on the 4th line. Obviously still lower than expectation, but what's up with him?

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 4:00 pm

Thread: Bigger Bottom Better

MTL accepts, of course. Yes we really like Armia, but Buchnevich is enticing and fits in the direction of the team.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 3:58 pm

Thread: Just Humor me would of could of

Okay but you still got Vasi, Cirelli, and Sergachev to pay the next year. So you'd have to re-ship out at the very least JT Miller

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 7 at 4:48

Thread: Got some questions for everybody

Honestly it's hard to tell you with a scale like that. What does 50% land you, a 3rd liner?

Another problem with a single nominal value is that value depends on needs. Do you want to win now, or win later? What position do you need? What play style fits your team better? Too many factors

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 7 at 4:41

Thread: Laval Rocket 20-21

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rideordie</b></div><div>no way peca, weise, waked, sturtz resign with mtl. Don't forget a team can only have a maximum of 50 active contracts. Unless they are ahl only contracts but none of them are worth keeping.</div></div>
Anyway, we're better off without those 4. When you have prospects with potential being pushed out of a lineup, it harms development.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 3 at 5:59

Thread: Pack it up boys cause the heart of the team is out

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rsamuelson</b></div><div>What’re your thoughts on Cape Fleury so far?</div></div>
He might one day become a top4, but a stable bottom pairing guy is more likely. IDK, hard to tell with players like Cale.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 3 at 5:58

Thread: Pack it up boys cause the heart of the team is out

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>math731</b></div><div>I think you forgot to add Lafreniere (or Raymond or Stutzle or Rossi or Lundell or Holtz)</div></div>

Lafreniere is too unlikely to count my chickens. The rest I assumed a top 10 pick is in the likely sphere, but guesstimated that them being NHL-ready isn't. So not worth thinking who we'd pick so far ahead.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 2 at 2:07

Thread: Next year according to reset plan including Laval Roster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ColonelX</b></div><div>I wouldn't say he's a fringe 3rd pairing defenseman but one is a captain of the team that aquired him and <strong>playing at Norris talks level</strong>. The other has been said to be out of shape, locker room cancer and is already being to his second team since the trade (And rumours that he's yet again on the trading block).
Could we safely say the Habs got the bigger end of the stick in that trade?</div></div>
Again, in the 3 prior seasons, Subban was in Norris talks and Weber wasn't. All I'm saying is that it's easy to talk when both are having outlier seasons. Before the start of this season, the Professional Hockey Writers' Association clearly placed Subban within the league's top 10D, and Weber outside of it.

So why don't we all just take a breather and for once admit we don't know jack from the comfort of our armchairs? Only time can tell.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 2 at 12:38

Thread: Next year according to reset plan including Laval Roster

To address the above debate, the truth is that the Weber vs Subban debate won't end until both contracts are over. Subban's having one bad year and all of a sudden he's a "fringe 3rd pairing D", as if he wasn't a Norris candidate the prior year. Weber is having a fiery season, and suddenly he's a "1D until he's 40 because of his work ethic".

Guys, we don't know the future. Relax. GMMB took a bet and put his career on the line knowing people like you will fight about it.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec 20, 2019 at 3:59

Thread: If Dougie Asks For Erik Karlsson Money and Years

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HabsForEver</b></div><div>Montreal doesn't really need Dzingel, don't see them being interested.</div></div>
Dzingel could be a fit for the right price, depending how the offseason goes. But it's not Montreal's priority, I agree on that.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec 13, 2019 at 9:39

Thread: Turning Oilers into Contender

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nohate</b></div><div>So it’s hall for Larsson and joe morrow for Puljujärvi, McLeod, Manning a 1st, and a 2nd?</div></div>

Larsson has 1 additional year on his contract, whereas Hall doesn't. Thus by default, Hall is worth less than Larsson.
But don't worry, he should've been giving 2x 1sts for Morrow, but instead downgraded one of them to a 2nd.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec 13, 2019 at 5:45

Thread: Oily fixing G- habs

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DomCholette</b></div><div>Primeau could be the next ...Roy, Murray to jump IN playoff and win the cup at first year in...
We all know Oilers would never trade DrDrai... but I just want to create am amazing team for the next 10 years with those addition.</div></div>
The problem is with "could be". Goalies are super unpredictable--ask any statistician. We still don't know how to predict goalie success, even if we can roughly predict forwards & defensemen success.

I don't think the Oils trade a #1C for a "maybe". Feels like a very risky move that risk-averse GM's aren't willing to make. If their bet doesn't pan off, they break off a newly blooming EDM team and definitely lose their job.

Quick note for valuation on Primeau, look at similar blue-chip goalie prospect trades in the past, like Schneider (and even he had 2 seasons under him).

Forum: Armchair-GMDec 13, 2019 at 10:54

Thread: Which team says no

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jack_</b></div><div>I think that's way to much for a backup and I dont like trading johnsson at this point. He usually shoots at around 11% but this season hes only at 3.5%. Selling low on him isnt a good idea. He has been good on the matthews line, if he were to come back and and become his former self then I wouldn't be opposed to trading him but right now selling low on him, or even kapanen is a bad idea</div></div>
OK but who else would you trade on the leafs? It feels like he's the most expendable piece of value. Would you trade Hyman instead? Maybe Trevor Moore has more value than his stats show? IDK

Forum: Armchair-GMDec 13, 2019 at 10:52

Thread: Which team says no

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WellIDK</b></div><div>Not sure about the CBJ trade, think it looks fine but I don't know how they value Savard. But the Pens will decline, even though the value is really good for them. Hutch is just terrible and adding him would mean that they have no contract spots anymore. So take Hutch out, Pens would easily accept. They probably would be willing to add a pick</div></div>
Leafs are at the 6-goalie-contracts-limit. They can't get this trade done without adding Hutch. PIT can bury him in ECHL. In order to fix that contract spot issue, PIT can send back another useless small contract.

Other than that, these are all smart & feasible moves as far as I can tell. Cool stuff!

Forum: Armchair-GMDec 13, 2019 at 10:34

Thread: GotMyFingerOnTheTriggerHandOnMyNine-UGotsToGetUrsIGotaGetMine

That's an interesting 3-way trade. Maybe PIT needs to add a little bit for NYR in the form of a draft pick, but the concept is cool.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec 13, 2019 at 10:04

Thread: Discussion what would it take to bring Gallagher home

If EDM was offered fair value for McDavid, would they ever trade him? No, because apart from being an outstanding player in general (trade value), he has formed the identity of EDM (team value).

Obviously Gallagher is not in the same class as McDavid, that's not what I'm saying. But what I mean is that it doesn't really matter what you give because his value to this team's identity is crucial to our success, so we can't accept giving him away for his fair trade value. You'd need to severely overpay (Like a Drai) for us to even think about it, and one Canadian team to another, I wouldn't want that either.

Write this one off.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec 13, 2019 at 10:01

Thread: Oily fixing G- habs

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Habs18</b></div><div>The only gripe I'd have would be losing Primeau but this would make Montreal better right now.</div></div>
Hands down, down so hard you break the table.

I'm silently rooting for EDM, may the rise of Canadian teams happen at some point for gods sake!

Forum: Armchair-GMDec 13, 2019 at 8:28

Thread: Move Crosby to the wing to fit Pageau

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gaudetster</b></div><div>who has more goal this year? Crosby or Pageau? yeah exactly.</div></div>
:tearsofjoy :tearsofjoy :tearsofjoy
That's so insanely short-sighted that it's hilarious. There's more to being a centerman than the amount of goals you did in the last 30 games.

By that logic, since this makes Crosby an inferior centerman, the Habs can acquire Crosby for Lehkonen (Simon equivalent) and 2020 1st? DEAL

Forum: Armchair-GMDec 13, 2019 at 8:27

Thread: Oily fixing G- habs

Oils won't do this. Leon > Domi. Can live without Lehky & Juul (though I love em). Losing Primeau is going to hurt tremendously (the only part of this that makes me hesitate). I think Habs still take this deal if offered.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec 12, 2019 at 2:51

Thread: Move Crosby to the wing to fit Pageau

One does not simply move Crosby to the wing. If anything, Pageau is moving.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec 12, 2019 at 10:25

Thread: Hall to the Canadiens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>I think they could make it work with Lehkonen + Poehling and a 2021 protected 1st</div></div>
It could work, but I don't think it will.
Also a french source from yesterday evening (Renaud Lavoie) claiming that Bergevin is not willing to pursue Hall
(<a href="https://www.tvasports.ca/2019/12/11/oubliez-taylor-hall-a-montreal?fbclid=IwAR1J6c95hp9JTYsz5f7vn_JYRSphCo02CjS2HkF1QUMKoL_6XAogxz93SqQ" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.tvasports.ca/2019/12/11/oubliez-taylor-hall-a-montreal?fbclid=IwAR1J6c95hp9JTYsz5f7vn_JYRSphCo02CjS2HkF1QUMKoL_6XAogxz93SqQ</a>)

I tend not to trust the French media too much in hockey (they're a bit loopy), but this is in line with every other Bergevin-esque trade.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec 12, 2019 at 10:10

Thread: Hall to the Canadiens

Bergevin would be fired immediately if two blue-chip prospects + 1st was paid for a rental (yes, even with the possibility of sign-and-trade). I honestly don't think anyone is willing to pay that.

One blue-chip and one pick is the general market price. And MTL won't be the one to sacrifice their future, even if there is a need for Hall's offense.

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