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Forum: NHL TradesSat at 5:07 pm
Thread: (MTL/CAR) - 2020 5th round pick for Edmundson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HabsForEver</b></div><div>He averaged 20 MInutes TOI/Games with St.Louis and 18 with Carolina. Those aren't 3rd pairing numbers. I'm not trying to argue he's a star here, but he's also easily worth a 5th round pick. He was a big part of what Carolina got for Faulk (I know Bokk was the main piece), Montreal is gaining value here while Carolina is losing value. You can argue about Carolina letting Edmundson go in FA, but that's because they can't manage their cap situation.</div></div>

He got 15 minutes of ES TOI. Slavin, Pesce, Hamilton and Skjei (though in 7 games) played over 17 minutes at ES. And Edmundson played on the 2nd PK unit (averaging almost 3 minutes still, it's why he still played 18 minutes per game)
Forum: NHL TradesSat at 4:50 pm
Thread: (MTL/CAR) - 2020 5th round pick for Edmundson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jtrev</b></div><div>Gives Habs another defenseman for the PK, can't have Weber + Petry wasting too many minutes shorthanded (not to mention Edmundson has better SH numbers than any of the Habs D last season over 50 min TOI, also better GA/60 than Slavin and Pesce believe it or not)</div></div>

Well it isn't weird that his GA/60 minutes is better than Slavin and Pesce. They played more minutes (like +3 min ES and .5 minutes SH) and vs better competition. Edmundson got 3rd pairing minutes at ES with way worse underlaying stats than any other defenseman on the Canes. Sure, he can play valuable minutes at PK. But he's not going to improve their defense overall and because of this trade, Edmundson got the leverage during the negotiations
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 6 at 11:02
Thread: Trading 1OA
Few notes. Batherson has been playing RW. Don't think he'll be an NHL center.
Also, I can't see Ottawa making that trade. It might work valuewise but still. OTT doesn't really like to pay big salaries, they are still a couple of years away from competing and Marner will be an UFA when he expires. So basically like 3 years of Marner before he walks away. Not worth giving up those assets. I mean, they have a chance to get someone as talented as Marner with 6 years of team control when keeping those picks. I feel like people are somewhat overvaluing Laf. The best player in the draft but scouts are somewhat questioning his ceiling compared to Byfield for example and apparently, some play-in teams don't have Laf at 1st lol.

If Ottawa stays patient, they're a contender in 3 years with a lot of cap space to acquire rentals because of those ELC's
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 23 at 7:41
Thread: Trying to contend
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy739</b></div><div>or pay a team to retain said cap in a 3 way trade?

That's what i suggested and at 4.5m cap MTL can use him 2-3 years then trade him with the ability to retain up to 1m more if need be. Given what Kimmo Timmonen got at 39 coming straight off IR to his new team i'm sure Vlasic will be fine and we can flip him

SJS pays , MTL waits 2-3 years to flip him before they get anything more then what he'll provide on ice.

That said everyone said Weber to MTL was a loss then he showed up producing so well fans shut up about losing the Subban trade and now actually claim we won it .

Fans always say dumb stuff in MTL , its the sad part about being a Habs fan</div></div>

I think it will be very hard to flip Vlasic in a couple of years. If I'm correct, players keep their NMC/NTC even after waiving it for a trade because of the new agreement. So if he waives now to go to MTL, he'll have his NMC at the Habs and is in full control again
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 5 at 6:08
Thread: Buffalo makes the playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Theyre absolutely not in a position to wait. This trade isnt good, but Tampa needs a mircle this offseason to not lose one of their core players. Cirelli, Point, and Sergachev don't have NTCs or NMCs, theyre going to be way easier to move</div></div>

Yes they are lol. Unless any of their RFA's sign an OS, they got the time to figure things out and to try and somehow move some NTC guys (which will be very hard). Sure, those players you mentioned are way easier to move, but Tampa wants to win a cup and trading any of those players would significantly weaken the team. Since most contenders are up against the cap and with all the uncertainties, it's very unlikely those RFA's get an OS from a team they like. Tampa will just wait, try to make room and if they fail, they hope to sign them to a Labanc-contract. They aren't in a hurry because they own the signing rights for a couple of years
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 5 at 9:06
Thread: Big Moves
Sabres decline. They probably want someone like Tkachuk too. Which Ottawa definitely won't do. Any Eichel trade is impossible IMO, simply because Buffalo wants a couple of high end players and high draft picks, which is too much to give up for the other team

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dzmets</b></div><div>Byfield is not going to be there at 5 for Sabres to pick will want #3 the San Jose pick to start with then #5, Tkachuk and Brannstrom then you have the Sabres attention. Short of that the Sabres agree to hang up the phone if Dorion mentions the name Eichel ever again.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>There's 0 chance of Byfield falling to #5, Say LA takes Tim Stutzle at #2 Ottawa takes Marco Rossi at #3 and then Detroit takes Quinton Byfield at #4 Buffalo declines that deal anyways. So it's a moot point.</div></div>

Well, if you read the description, you'd know he simply selected the wrong 1st rd pick. He's talking about Sabres using the #3 pick on Byfield, so he obviously meant the SJS pick.