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Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 28, 2021 at 2:16 p.m.

Thread: Different Eichel Approach

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Its generally easier for me when less idiots respond to my messages so thats fine by me</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yycofred</b></div><div>And you are clearly infatuated with the Flames and can't see past the city limits! You and Gmonwy enjoy your little fan club, I am gonna have to mute you both, website is better place without ya! So long shtinky!</div></div>

Oh god, you're all idiots. YYC, you're a clown, people have their opinions they are right, wrong, left field, right field, whatever, no need to announce that you are blocking people, these guys just seem like kids who are all in on the Flames, move along you cranky dick.

LD and Gmon you guys post on a website of fake hockey **** over 20 times a day and are generally not helpful at all, Gmon deleted a post yesterday after he was told he's an idiot, you're both clowns that need to find hobbies. This website sucks for Flames fans as the fan base is a joke here, 3 days on it was far too long.,

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 28, 2021 at 1:41 p.m.

Thread: Marner Tavares Hold Up

Why swap out a core that is young and seems to be trending in the right direction for two overpaid pieces, one aging, one not performing that have won nothing more than the Flames core?

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 28, 2021 at 1:33 p.m.

Thread: Different Eichel Approach

I don't love moving Andersson, Miller can fill the spot but no guarantee that he signs again and then Tanev is your only good natural RH d man.

I'm shocked that you don't have Flames fans on this website clamoring that Kylington could play all three spots on the right side as he seems to be the next coming of Lidstrom to people on here.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 27, 2021 at 4:05 p.m.

Thread: Monahan Options Around the League

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AntreDiAnaheim</b></div><div>I’d do that Ducks trade honestly. If we can move Henrique by the deadline Monahan could be a great 2C</div></div>

I'd consider HEnrique another intriguing option for the Flames!

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 27, 2021 at 1:21 p.m.

Thread: Official Line up vs PHI

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oilersguy</b></div><div>the has been change, last game Benson and Sceviour were in the Line-up and the past two games Koskinen has been the starter and Skinner has been the back-up because of the fact that Smith was injured.

When you 5-0 to start the season don't think that it would be the best decision to make big line-up changes</div></div>

Oh, I was just confused by the post then, I figured there was something important that you were sharing if you thought to post it.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 27, 2021 at 1:11 p.m.

Thread: Official Line up vs PHI

Is this the same as it's been? Is there a big change that people are missing with this post?

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 27, 2021 at 12:01 p.m.

Thread: Monahan Options Around the League

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>villenash</b></div><div>Can't see NSH trading Forsberg for Monahan -- Johansen could happen though. Maybe $1m or so retention + 2nd for Monahan? Johansen looks a lot better than Monahan so far this season, but I could see this not being enough for CGY. Not sure NSH goes much higher than that though.</div></div>

Arvidsson was my favourite Monahan target, hated to see him go for a reasonable price to the Pacific division!

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 27, 2021 at 12:00 p.m.

Thread: Monahan Options Around the League

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheGHANDI90</b></div><div>do you see Tkachuk re-signing? I feel a holdout incoming. He's quite low on the depth chart at this point too no?</div></div>

Could see a hold out, could see a QO accepted for one year, could see him and Johnny sign matching value contracts, such a wild card going forward. He's lined up with Gaudreau and Lindholm right now but he is losing some minutes to Mangiapane either way he's on the Flames roster next year for around 9 million which at this pace is too much.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 27, 2021 at 11:57 a.m.

Thread: Monahan Options Around the League

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>I say fat chance of Sean Monahan waiving for any rebuilding teams like Ottawa, Anaheim and Arizona.</div></div>

I don't disagree. All hypothetical obviously, if I was in his head though and kept getting strapped to Trevor Lewis and Milan Lucic, I wouldn't mind going to a rebuilding team for two years to ride out my contract. Another reason that I think his value has taken a hit. Contenders can't afford him, rebuilders will lose him in two seasons.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 27, 2021 at 11:56 a.m.

Thread: Monahan Options Around the League

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Alfie11</b></div><div>monahan's more valuable than all these guys except like, tuch and marchessault (and maybe forsberg), and for most of them it isn't close. He's probably gone in a deal for eichel or hertl, or not at all</div></div>

Ohh, I think we will disagree. At this point any of those guys above help the top 9 more than Monahan is now, if the Flames are going to re sign Gaudreau and Tkachuk getting Monahan off the books is a big help and clears the way for Zary, Pelletier etc to play in the top nine instead of a meat head role if they get a shot over the next two years.
I love Monahan but to say that he goes in a Hertl or Eichel deal as a key piece is seeing the world through rose coloured glasses for a Flames fan.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 27, 2021 at 11:53 a.m.

Thread: Monahan Options Around the League

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheGHANDI90</b></div><div>Gallagher 1 for 1 wld be interesting to be perfectly honest, i'd do it.</div></div>

Super interesting, I have him at the bottom there just cause I don't see an easy path to re signing current Flames if they bring him in, during his contract the Flames would potentially have to give pay raises to most of that roster including, Lindholm, Hanifin, Tkachuk, Gaudreau, Mangiapane, Dube, Andersson, Valimaki etc.
I really like to target and the fit in Calgary would be something else to watch with him and Tkachuk playing in the top six but the financials get super messy.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 27, 2021 at 11:06 a.m.

Thread: Manifest Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>How. I hate reddit, but its one of the most prevalent websites on the internet and is commonly referenced in modern culture, thats like saying idk what google is</div></div>

Other than this CapFriendly account which is close to being deleted I don't spend much time on things other than work online. No need to know what Reddit is, got put onto this site by a guy I share season tickets with and have a couple weeks here of time off before work is busy again.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 27, 2021 at 10:57 a.m.

Thread: Manifest Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>This is clearly my opinion, thats why im not answering this dumb question, stop turning this into Reddit, soumer, "Where's your sooooooouuuuurrrrrce, I need a sooouuuuuuuuuuurrrrrcce"</div></div>

I don't know what Reddit is, but sure man, I mean you said it like a fact or that you speak for the Sabres organization so I was curious, all you had to say at the start was that it's your opinion, everyone is entitled to an opinion, even if it's wrong like yours!

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 27, 2021 at 10:38 a.m.

Thread: Manifest Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Buy in or not, he has no chance to make Buffalo is what im saying. If theres injuries, Murray, Quinn, Peterka, and Weissbach all get called up well before he would</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SalamiCheese</b></div><div>Where did you get that Adams wants Pelletier, not Zary?</div></div>

Still nothing to report on the Zary Pelletier thing?

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 26, 2021 at 5:54 p.m.

Thread: Manifest Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SalamiCheese</b></div><div>Where did you get that Adams wants Pelletier, not Zary?</div></div>

He won't answer that one.... Radio silent every time!

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 26, 2021 at 2:39 p.m.

Thread: Manifest Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>then they can wait 5 years to take a shot at him as a ufa</div></div>

Zary Pelletier?

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 26, 2021 at 2:31 p.m.

Thread: Manifest Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Not if teams want him. Dube makes the cap work. Senyshyn is a career AHLer, going to need much more</div></div>

I'm curious about the Pelletier Zary thing if you have a source to that I would love to read it, I find that fascinating

Meehh, market is dwindling a bit, not long until there is a grievance, then at that point a trade doesn't really make sense until at least the draft next year. I think teams would rather hold out for a price they can manage as opposed to blowing the system or roster to get a guy that won't play any time soon.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 26, 2021 at 2:01 p.m.

Thread: Manifest Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Zadorov and Senyshyn have negative value, Sabres want Pelletier as well (over Zary or with if youre so inclined)</div></div>

Oh no way, when in the Sabres camp say they prefer Pelletier? I haven't heard that yet, definitely an interesting development. If I'm the Flames I would way rather send Pelletier, done and done.

Zadorov makes the cap work and Senyshyn could be an upgraded prospect at this point nothing going to Buffalo is negative, a captain that won't play for the Sabres is more negative than anything.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 26, 2021 at 1:24 p.m.

Thread: Much needed moves

Rielly would come into an already busy LD position, he's taking away from one of Kylington or Valimaki who in a year where no one really expects the Flames to compete doesn't make any sense at all. Then to send Mangiapane in a deal when he is an expiring RFA and should sign a long term deal for a UFA that likely doesn't sign in Calgary makes even less than zero sense.

I'm curious to know why you think it would be a good fit for Calgary?

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 26, 2021 at 12:31 p.m.

Thread: calgary trade

I think the Flames try do that without Dube involved, it also sounds like Buffalo wants to lean towards more futures, ie. Zary, Pelletier, Corronato

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 26, 2021 at 11:31 a.m.

Thread: Have You Seen 91 Yet

Tarasenko is great until he isn't. This would be a decent package for Tkachuk if Tarasenko came with the guarantee that his body holds up, with that being impossible I just couldn't see the deal above happening.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 26, 2021 at 11:16 a.m.

Thread: Eichel what would it take

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>To Buffalo? When they drafted Owen Power, when they had Dahlin, Bryson, Samuelsson and Johnson already in the pipeline, literally at that moment</div></div>

So he's not a zero value player, he doesn't fit in Buffalo but to say he is zero value is wrong.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 26, 2021 at 10:38 a.m.

Thread: Eichel what would it take

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Sabres want Pelletier over Zary, Valimaki has 0 value, Dube works instead</div></div>

When did Valimaki magically become a zero value player?

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 25, 2021 at 6:31 p.m.

Thread: Retool on the Fly

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>I dont think you have watched a lot of Schmaltz, he is not a strong 200 foot player and his skating is definitely below average. As I said above, same flaws as SM just not as good at scoring.

While I like Marchessault, Schmaltz does not improve the team to a contender</div></div>

I've seen enough to know that he can skate much better than Monahan. His underlying numbers are also better. Monahan without Gaudreau has been dreadful, getting him off the roster and ensuring that Gaudreau is not strapped to him would be worth it alone. We are going to agree to disagree here.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 25, 2021 at 2:07 p.m.

Thread: Retool on the Fly

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Schmaltz has all the same flaws as Monahan but not as good a goal scorer</div></div>

Cheaper, cost controlled for 5 more seasons with Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Mangiapane needing contracts, right shot, better 200 foot player, can skate well enough that he doesn't drag a line. I take Schmaltz 10 out of 10 times over Monahan right now and going forward.

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