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Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 20, 2022 at 10:53 a.m.
Thread: Toronto Maple Leafs Trades
-Holl is way more valuable than this; but it's also worth noting that a Devils team with Dougie Hamilton, Damon Severson, and John Marino as their RD depth chart wouldn't make a ton of sense as a destination for him.

-Just gonna combine the two Blues deals to show the value disparity:

TORONTO GETS: Vladimir Tarasenko ($3M retained), Ryan O'Reilly ($2M retained), 2024 3rd

ST LOUIS GETS: Alex Kerfoot (pending UFA), Nicholas Robertson (currently injured), Rodion Amirov (still not playing), SDA, 2023 1st, 2024 2nd, 2023 3rd

So the Blues send out their top 2 trade chips, retain on both, and all you're sending them is two prospects with big injury questions marks, a guy typically ranked in the lower half of TML's top 10 prospects, a pending UFA (not really useful for a seller), and a 1st and a 2nd, with a swap of thirds. You realize when you speak it out how bad these offers are, right?

-Muzzin blocks if he has any hope of coming back. I also think Arizona has minimal interest in this - it's not a ton of value gained by taking the contract off your hands. The Bryan Little deal is the template to look at here, and Arizona prioritized getting a nearly-NHL-ready player back as opposed to future picks. I think you're gonna have to go that way (Alex Steeves? Nick Abruzzese) instead of sending picks if Muzzin is LTIRetired and fine with his contract moving to Arizona.

-Garbage deal for the Leafs, and that's coming from someone who loves Mayfield. Brodie is a clear cut top pair guy, and has been for a few years now, with an extra year of term. Mayfield is a pending UFA who can moonlight on the top pair but is best used as your 4th/5th D. The only advantage he has over Brodie is a lower cap hit. Islanders would take this deal in a heartbeat, if only to flip out Brodie for an appropriate return somewhere else.

-LA has too many young forwards as it is; Joey Anderson would be buried on their depth chart. Why not keep him around as depth? You're under the 50 contract limit with him, he has *some* NHL experience in case you need him for a few games, and you can let him loose this summer if you don't want him around. It doesn't make sense to subtract from your depth (even a guy like Joey Anderson) for no reason if you're hoping to go far - getting rid of Joey Anderson means the next man up is, who, Max Ellis? Kyle Clifford? Just keep him, no need to move someone you don't need to move.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 19, 2022 at 12:18 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 18, 2022 at 12:36 a.m.
Thread: Team Additions Without Changing Too Much
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Byrr</b></div><div>You aren't asking for multiple 1sts but you are asking for more than 1. It's quite relevant what you think the player who has been twice as effective or more this season will fetch compared to the player you are asking for more than the 1st + prospect for.

Retention isn't worth anything at the deadline unless its a 3rd team being brought in or multiple seasons worth of it. It's actually very little money remaining and is the cost of doing business. The trading team retains to get the best deal available. They aren't going to take a lesser package back because they won't have to retain for the 2 months remaining in the season that they've already given up on. It's a non-sense argument to make.

O'Reilly hasn't been your 1C this season. He's been your 2C for 2 seasons now behind Thomas (time on ice verifies this) and has lost even more of that time on ice this season compared to last. Your '1C' is playing a full 2 minutes less than he was 2 seasons ago. Don't come in here with that bull****.</div></div>

Oi vey...

1 - Horvat has exactly nothing to do with this. I honestly have no clue why you want to shoehorn him into it or what you think it means when it comes to a dealing between Toronto and St. Louis. I have even less of an inkling what my take on Horvat's trade value has to do with anything. It's all the height of irrelevance. Meanwhile, you aren't even bothering to debate the actual offer on this AGM that both myself and a non-Blues fan said they'd reject. Not. One. Word.

2 - Hahaha what???? The cost of doing retention business falls on the team asking for it. Like what are you on, dude? It's so easy for you to say it's not much money, you don't have to pay it. A nonsense argument, he says... I mean, holy projection, Batman.

3 - Ehh 1C is not determined by ice time. It's determined by matchups. This season, O'Reilly is 93 percentile usage. Last season, it was even higher. Thomas' usage is 77 percentile this season, was in the 50's last season. But please, person who only "watches" the Blues via stat sheet, tell us all so much more about it. Or maybe just settle the hell down with accusing others of slinging bull****. Just more pure projection.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 15, 2022 at 12:10 p.m.
Thread: Pierre LeBrun on ROR and Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>I agree this isn't enough, I would add Robertson and some other lesser prospect and drop a 3rd. However I would still make it a conditional pick. I think it gives TO a chance at keeping their 1st this year and if not oh well. Kerfoot certainly has value. Despite what people on here want to believe, has outplayed his contract for the past season and a half. Cap dumps contribute less than their cap hit would suggest. That isn't Kerfoot and before you jump down the consensus belief that "if he had value why hasn't he been traded?" It's because he hasn't been put on the market. If he were to be, he would get a return. Because he's a good player. Luckily for TO cap friendly is not NHL GM's. Public opinion doesn't have that much sway to GM's.</div></div>

Not saying that Kerfoot has no value in a trade, but in *this* specific trade, he's cap ballast.

Look at from the Blues' point of view: if they're trading guys like ROR &amp; Tarasenko, they've obviously packed it in on this season. What value does a pending UFA like Alex Kerfoot have to them? If you're the Blues GM, wouldn't you rather use that roster spot to audition a younger guy in a bigger role for those 20 games instead of plugging in a guy that's not gonna be with your team next year? Kerfoot only gets included in a lot of these deals to sellers as cap offset, and that means he's not going to be as highly valued as he would be if here were being shopped to another contender.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 27, 2022 at 4:07 p.m.