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Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 21, 2023 at 7:55 p.m.
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Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 25, 2023 at 3:47 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>No, I'm overvaluing his size and physicality in this scenario because Spurgeon is 5'8" and weighs 168 pounds. Soaking wet.

Maybe he doesn't belong there, and would be better served playing farther down in the lineup. But this is AGAIN not about who's a better overall player. This is about what type of player Spurgeon NEEDS next to him. Middleton is a better FIT next to Spurgeon then Hanifin because the areas he excels at are the areas Spurgeon needs help in. Minus blocking shots, really. Middleton's physicality is what allows Spurgeon to activate in the play and generate offensive production. No Middleton, no top-10 Norris finish for Spurgeon.

Simple as that.

Hanifin literally is supposed to play the Middleton role in his partnering with Andersson. While Andersson plays the Spurgeon role.

And, despite Hanifin being the exact same height as Middleton at 6'3" and weighing 5 lbs more. He threw 39 less hits then Middleton did last season and 26 less blocks. And while it's obvious that Plus/Minus is generally useless, it's telling that Hanifin was only a plus 2 while playing against lesser competition and getting more offensive zone starts. While Middleton was a plus 15 playing against tougher competition and defensive zone starts. So for a guy that can get walked by faster players, he does pretty well for himself defensively speaking.

I really don't give a flying f*** if Middleton has no offensive game to speak of. That's not his role. His role is to hit anyone and anything that moves in a opposing jersey, block shots, and clear the front of the net. He does those things extremely well.

<a href="https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/frozenpool_compare.php?players%5B%5D=4229&amp;players%5B%5D=4161&amp;players%5B%5D=4635&amp;players%5B%5D=2610&amp;period=2022-2023%3AR%3A99" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Middleton, Spurgeon, Hanifin, Andersson comparison.</a>

I seriously suggest you look at the data for the 3 year comparative between these 4 players.

In the last 3 years of the 4 only Middleton is above 200 hits, the other 3 can't even crack 170. And his Plus/Minus is more in less in line with both Hanifin and Andersson's. So the idea or opinion that he isn't good enough to play there is irrelevant to the discussion at hand. He's the only one <em>physical</em> enough to do the job there next to Spurgeon.</div></div>

Why so serious?
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 21, 2023 at 9:50 p.m.