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Armchair-GM
Jun. 28, 2019 at 1:27 p.m.
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Kessel Moves on
4.5 for Pettersson and 1.25 for ZAR is atrocious
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 28, 2019 at 11:13 a.m.
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Penguins
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gregb569</b></div><div>all facts no printer BRUTHER</div></div>
I don't know whats worse on here. Continuous posts like these from the same people or the ones who never post an AGM and just comment on everyone elses.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 28, 2019 at 11:10 a.m.
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Penguins
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gregb569</b></div><div>why do you continuously create the same GM except make minor changes?</div></div>
I often wonder the same thing. 5+ AGMs per day and still hasn't figured it out yet. They're all either really bad or copied trades from other posters. I wish we could give negative stars and/or block certain peoples posts.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 28, 2019 at 6:16 a.m.
Thread:
Give something to get something
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hullabaloo86</b></div><div>So how does one get better at this? I appreciate your feedback and maybe I was a little sensitive. Im kind of new to all this as fun as it is I simply dont know the technicalities.
My rationale was that VGK need help in dumping cap. So they would have to pay and make some hard calls. I probably underpaid it now knowing what you guys have imparted on me.</div></div>
Gunnarsson just got a 1.75m per year, 2 year contract compared to the 3m contract you gave him. Ferland, Micheal will certainly get more than 2m per year. You just have to see what players of comparable stats, age and skill sets are getting offered in real life and go from there. Most people overvalue their hometown players and devalue opposing teams players which results in poorly constructed AGMs because of bias and opinions instead of facts. Some people make these AGMs without noticing the trading partners teams needs and/or wants and try to make moves and unrealistically manipulate salary just to fit within the cap.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 27, 2019 at 12:33 p.m.
Thread:
Mario hughes pens 68
YIKES! 10m for an aging player? Why would you not get 2 free agents for the price or go after RFA Werenski???
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 27, 2019 at 11:00 a.m.
Thread:
Lets try this again
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgfresh78</b></div><div>That’s exactly what I’m thinking...it reminds me of the time GMJR signed Ehrhoff after Buffalo bought him out.</div></div>
It's probably not realistic but if they got rid of both Johnson and Gubransson, they should sign Benn and Stralman. Click on my name and look at the AGM I made last week.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 27, 2019 at 10:56 a.m.
Thread:
Lets try this again
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgfresh78</b></div><div>I think Benn is the perfect partner for Schultz but my thing with Perry is that GMJR is dying on the hill that he needs gritty players and if he wants grit so bad why not invest into a guy who can potentially give you 20 goals while possessing all the intangible garbage that GMJR wants</div></div>
Considering he still gets paid on his bought out contract, if the Pens sign him for 1.5m or less, then I would be all for it. It would be a low risk, high reward investment. I'm all for gritty players if they can actually play too and not too many can.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 27, 2019 at 10:55 a.m.
Thread:
Give something to get something
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMTD</b></div><div>Great analysis. You make a very good point, but so many teams are in the win now mode that they will jump at signing UFA if a GM thinks it put the team into the playoffs.
Just for fun, click on Okposo, then compare his current contract. Look at top 3 comparable: Lucic, Milan, Turris, Kyle and Horton, Nathan. While some do very well, Tavares and JVR come to mind, there are too many who do not.
I hope Betterall does not sign a big name UFA and continues to follow the steady progress path of trading with teams who want to deal (I.e. Anaheim and Carolina, Montour and Skinner).
It is too bad that the Sabres could not pick up Haula. He has a low cap, decent past performance and only had to give up a 5th (conditional) and a "C" prospect. I just noticed, I said Haula instead of Stastny in my comment above. LOL. I am going to correct it now.
On the other hand, unless at least 3 of Thompson, Olofsson, Nylander, Pilut, Mittelstadt, Ruotsalainen or Cozens (not likely), can perform at top six or second pairing NHL caliper, we will be a lottery team again and miss the playoffs.</div></div>
In my opinion, Botteril was the architect of the Penguins back to back runs. Once he left to go to Buffalo, Rutherturd (I know the misspelling but that should be his real name), has completely disregarded the game plan and used his dinosaur mentality of old time hockey in trying to revamp the teams identity into something that will not play to their strengths and prevent them from getting over the edge and back to champions. I wish Rutherturd would have retired and promoted Botteril. All Rutherturd has done is hand out hefty contracts to mid-tier players, trade away any and all assets trying to find that missing piece.
There's only a handful of FAs I would go after if there was any cap space to do so. The next Pens GM is gonna have his hands full and it's sad to say but in my opinion, I don't see the Penguins winning another championship in the Crosby/Malkin era. Too much damage control needs to be done and it will require losing a piece or two of the core.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 27, 2019 at 10:45 a.m.
Thread:
over complicate everything
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pipinghotgatorade</b></div><div>I mean the title says to over complicate everything. This certainly complicates the cap situation for next year, so for that I award 5 stars.</div></div>
True lol. Not only does the window close to win, it breaks the window beyond repair for the Crosby/Malkin era.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 27, 2019 at 10:44 a.m.
Thread:
over complicate everything
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mikearky</b></div><div>Av's, Vegas, Leafs and Jets say NO.</div></div>
Damn, how in the world can you be employed by 3 different teams? To effectively have permission to say "NO" and represent 3 NHL teams is quite the feat. Can you use your employee discount to get me tickets and merchandise at the team stores in the arenas? If so, you would be the man.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 27, 2019 at 9:45 a.m.
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JR to HHOF
In reference to your title regarding GMJR to the HHoF. They should do to him like he does to teams. Induct him (win a cup) in then remove him (revamp the teams identity, make bad trades and overpay players) a couple years after the celebration.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 27, 2019 at 9:42 a.m.
Thread:
Lets try this again
Perry is on a decline and look how well it went the last time Crosby's personal friend (Johnson) joined the team. I would sign Benn in a heartbeat though.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 27, 2019 at 9:38 a.m.
Thread:
over complicate everything
You do realize that Ehlers trade would never happen right? I doubt you could get Ehlers for Kessel straight up. Plus Barrie, Murray, McCann, Simon and Kahun will all be getting raises the following year and with how little the cap went up, you would lose half of them if not more to free agency.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 27, 2019 at 9:37 a.m.
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Get Zucker and Keep Kessel
Seems as if 1st is the going rate to dump salary. DeSmith as a capable backup on a cap friendly (no pun intended) contract. I like the idea Zucker and keeping Kessel. That 1st might have to be attached to Johnson instead of Rust but sending the RFA rights of ZAR would suffice. With that left over cap, I would go after Jordie Benn. He's defensively sound, drives possession and would provide a boost to the Malkin line.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 27, 2019 at 9:28 a.m.
Thread:
Give something to get something
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMTD</b></div><div>There have been some very strange deals with cap dumps. Marleau and Miller at opposite ends of the spectrum. Marleau and a first? Wow, I thought at most it would take is a second or a middling prospect. Marleau has talent and was brought in to provide leadership to the Leafs. On the other hand, Miller's salary and production are out of sync. Helping Tampa by giving up a first for Miller is one that should get everyone upset.
While I agree, it is unlikely that this will get the job done, it is nice to dream. LOL
The trade favors Buffalo, I would love to get Miller and Stastny. I think it would take more than a 2nd and Nylander.
Yup, I would love to get both Miller and Haula for that.
Not even close in my mind either.</div></div>
I agree and to think the 1st w Marleau has set the new standard to what it will cost to dump salary. If VAN were giving up a 1st, they should have went after a different player and since TB needed cap relief, VAN could have used that to their advantage. Imagine what PIT has to give up to remove themselves from Johnson, Gubransson, Hornqvist and Bjugstad. I don't see how teams can continue to be contenders on a yearly basis by paying mid tier players and bottom 6 players monies that should given to your top 2 starting lines. Since when should a 20 goal scorer be paid almost 7m per year? It's insane.
Contracts should be performance based and bonuses paid should not reflect negatively towards the cap. The cap structure should allow a premium payment for players who have expired their RFA status and players entering and in their athletic primes. Once a player hits 31yrs of age, a new structure should be set to recognize the start of regression in performance and decline in abilities. By the time a players' "premium contract" has expired, said player should be financially secure enough to be able to live, save, etc. on the "regression contract". I'm not saying to pay an older player RFA money, but no way should they be making upwards of 10% of a teams total cap hit. There could be a clause set in, that if a player, once they hit 31 and has 2 or 3 years of declining numbers in a season, injuries exempt, their contract would be reworked to fit within a certain parameter. An example, if a player makes a base salary of 8m per year, played all 82 games and only put up 40 points when they used to average 70+ points in their prime years, they would get a base salary of 4m with performance bonuses. Spezza, Seabrook, Lucic, Ryan, Kesler, Erickson and even Toews to an extent, are all decent examples of bad contracts and payments on past performances. Paying certain players, especially role players based on past performance is bad business. Paying the "Stanley Cup Tax" on UFAs from most recent championships is also not wise. The CBA and NHL need to find a middle ground on how to handle the cap situation. Soon, players who deserve to be in the NHL won't be able to because they will price themselves out of the league and teams will consist of 2 solid lines of quality players and the bottom pairings will be nothing but sub-par players, RFAs and undrafted players.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 27, 2019 at 8:34 a.m.
Thread:
Give something to get something
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hullabaloo86</b></div><div>Ok I’m happy with that feedback. At least your constructive and not outright abusive like the first guy.
If you take out Stastny for Eakins are we getting closer?</div></div>
Seriously? Abusive? If people can't handle being criticized then maybe they should just stay in their boxes. How will you ever handle the real world, a work atmosphere, human interactions, etc.? I absolutely can not stand these unwarranted sensitive snowflake types who play the victim card and cry wolf when spewing ridiculousness then gets corrected with logic. <strong>YOU</strong> made a silly AGM and I pointed out, with 2 (two) very distinct reasons as where you went wrong with it. <strong>YOU</strong> didn't like the response and decided to go in a complete different direction with it by trying to put the focus on me and hoping others would feel sorry for you instead of manning up and assuming the responsibility for your actions.
A normal response to my comment would have been something like...
1. How do you view the trades in terms of the player assessments I made?
2. How do you view the signings I made?
3. What would you have done differently?
Those three questions would have provoked a rational debate and we could have shared our thoughts and opinions on the subject in a mature manner. I would have answered those three questions if I were presented the opportunity instead of being labeled an abuser. Hopefully you see your errors in how you handled this situation and respond accordingly next time. If you would like to revisit this topic, I would gladly engage in dialog with you but if you are going to behave immaturely, I will not be interested in continuing this conversation any further.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 27, 2019 at 6:58 a.m.
Thread:
Give something to get something
You need to get better at player assessment and relative cap payment structures before making anymore of these AGMs
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 27, 2019 at 6:53 a.m.
Thread:
Loading Up Via Depth Transactions
Why in the world would Pgh want that scrub Kassian? Pgh is not the destination for Edm to dump a 4th line plugs cap hit. Pgh barely has enough to cover the cost of resigning their own RFAs. If they had left over cap, they would be going after a worthwhile UFA not some clown who is nothing more than a 6min per game wrecking ball. If you are so insistent to send him to Pgh, you will be taking back both Johnson and Gudbransson, not useless draft picks. Just add him to that Ott deal with that Felonious Gru looking goof who's neck doesn't bend. Ott has to hit the cap floor anyways.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 27, 2019 at 6:36 a.m.
Thread:
Pens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>FL was clearing cap space for the summer, the penguins took advantage. It was a good deal for them.
He can bring back a bigger return. He put up 9 goals for the penguins in 32 games. That's a 20 goal average. Don't tell me, teams wouldn't give up more for him.</div></div>
Well obviously they didn't. The facts are right in front of you but you choose to ignore them, as usual. If he could have netted a better return, FLA would have pursued that option. It's evident there were no other takers or offers. Even if, as you assume, FLA was clearing space, a better return could have been a quality prospect, an impact draft pick or a low cost roster player with term and upside. Instead FLA got Brassard and Sheahan with blah draft picks for Bjugstad and McCann with McCann being the prize. Bjugstad also had a whopping 5 assists and since you like to reference averages, that would be a little over 10 assists, in 82 games. He has been on a downward spiral since putting up 24 goals (his only 20 goal season) 4 seasons ago. Hopefully you don't think his point total is good value in comparison to what his cap hit is. They didn't want to pay Bonino 4m, who is a better offensive player but Bjugstad is acceptable? Gimme a break.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 26, 2019 at 1:29 p.m.
Thread:
try and win this year
I may have misread the title of this post. Thought it said "try and win this year" but then I saw you sign Cullen and Wilson. You must have meant the winning part for another team perhaps?
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 26, 2019 at 1:26 p.m.
Thread:
Ideal off-season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AFOX10900</b></div><div>I just don't think that contract is movable without giving up another big asset that would make it not worth it</div></div>
There are plenty of 1st and 2nd round picks available to trade. The Penguins usually draft at 20th or above anyways. Even if they had to give up a prospect or the rights to ZAR or the like, it would absolutely, 100% be worth moving that useless turd Johnson and the 4 more years of his 3.25m cap hit. He had the most goals allowed out of all Penguins defensemen and looks lost half the time and can't move the puck worth a damn. It gives the Penguins cap flexibility and stability on the blue line just parting ways with him. I wouldn't surprised if Rutherford goes n gets Phaneuf to make Kessel happy. I hope that never happens lol.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 26, 2019 at 1:17 p.m.
Thread:
Pens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>?penguins get hosed on that Nieto trade. Jugs is a better player and could bring back a better return if traded.</div></div>
If Bjugstad could bring back a better return, why didn't he when he was traded to the Penguins? It took him and McCann for a terrible Brassard, the same guy who commanded Cole, a highly touted goalie prospect and a 1st round pick when the Penguins acquired him from Ottawa.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 26, 2019 at 1:12 p.m.
Thread:
Ideal off-season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AFOX10900</b></div><div>A. The lines aren't going to be that, they would change, and B. We brought in Kahun to play next to Malkin, I'm not complaining about having a 40 point ROOKIE who was in his first season on NA ice in the top 6, ZAR was hurt guy parts of last year and was also the only positive player when playing with Malkin and Kessel (ik +/- is a **** stat, but it does tell you something when one member of a line is +8 or 9 iirc, and the other two are both - I think) and Accari was one of the best 4th liners in the league last year, I have 0 complaints about having him on the fourth line, plus if you need to you can put rust on the LW, Aberg was on pace for 20-25 goals before he was traded to MIN, and Simon can play LW, and while he's not gonna put the pick in the net, he is a possession god</div></div>
Explain why Jack Johnson is still on the team. Him being on the roster can not be ideal now can it?
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 26, 2019 at 6:29 a.m.
Thread:
Ideal off-season
Aside from Guentzel, the LWs you have there are nothing to brag about. All 3 of them combined have under 30 total NHL goals last season. This roster is only ideal for every opponent the Penguins face.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 26, 2019 at 6:22 a.m.
Thread:
Dream
You shouldn't have to retain on Johnson since Ottawa has to hit the cap floor but I think a pick or mid-tier prospect needs to be attached and they wouldn't have to send a player on LTIR back since it doesn't effect the cap. Why take on Nylander and his 7mil when you could probably get Kapanen, who will cost significantly less money, for what you are offering? Hainsey is trash and is not apart of anybodies "dreams". In Hainsey, you are getting Jack Johnson essentially for less salary.
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