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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 22, 2021 at 12:41 a.m.
Thread: Going Oil The Way
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tjm220</b></div><div>If you want buffalo to retain anything on Risto’s contract they are keeping all the draft picks. Also, forget about Dougie Hamilton because you can’t afford him. Lastly as I’m sure you’re already aware Seattle will not take Kassian without being paid to do it.</div></div>

Agreed, the add draft picks are unrealistic, I was too lazy to remove them.

I can see Holland going after Hamilton, but I can figure out how to dispose of Neal and Koskinen other than buyout. If Holland manages to move these contracts, Hamilton will fit.

Kassian to Seattle is in realm of reality, they may see him as a player with trade value, if not roster value. I cannot claim know anything other than that more NHL GMs will value him than fans do.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 13, 2021 at 9:13 p.m.
Thread: In a Flat Cap World - Play the Rookies
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tommygunns</b></div><div>I agree with most of with what you are saying but if Benson is not ready then he will never be ready. I think Skinner should be ready to back up in the NHL but not play as much as would be needed if Mike Smith is the other goalie.</div></div>

Benson? I didn't mention him, but I think he is ready. I've watched him in person a few times in Penticton and also an exhibition game VS Calgary. One of the things that that stand out with him, but isn't mentioned much is his effort level.

He is ready, he just needs his coach to believe in him.

Skinner is not ready. He needs to improve his focus/puck-tracking. He has the techniques and physical skill, but needs to improve his awareness. I noticed him "zoning out" and losing his net, lose focus on where the puck is a few times in several games in the A this season.

He is a typical talented young pro who still needs growth, experience and refinement so he can become consistent. Same as it ever was.....
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 13, 2021 at 4:19 p.m.
Thread: In a Flat Cap World - Play the Rookies
I watched most of Bakersfield games this season, Lavoie is still more than a year away. He showed some flashes, but he is really not very interested in Dzone play. He will also take Ozone penalties, but to be honest not all were deserved.

Hopefully he builds on his rookie year and gets better in every part of his game, because he has that amazing shot, he needs to figure out how to get it off with less time and space.

Niemelainen was impressive and might be better than Jones is today, plus he is 6'5"...

Broberg will spend at least a few weeks in the AHL, but Samorukov could surprise, but he is coming off shoulder surgery. Only Holloway and Bouchard can realistically be expected to be contenders for roster spots.

Skinner needs another year in the A, plus he is waiver exempt for 1 more year...
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 13, 2021 at 3:50 p.m.
Thread: Holland Goes Nuts
I like your thinking, but throwing that kind of money at a less than guaranteed return comes with massive risk. For 1, Sorokin has only played 1 NHL season, with a comrade for moral and mentoring-support, and behind a very structured, veteran team. As well, he turns 26 in the summer, so he isn't a young pro. At this time there are zero Russians on the Oilers roster (Kulikov will not be brought back).

In comparison, Chris Driedger is 27 and has played well over 2 seasons, he is a Western Canadian and will be a fraction of the cost and will sign a 3 or 4 year deal.

Also, the Oilers prospect pool is so shallow... . They need to keep their picks while they can. When they are Cup contenders, they will really need their youth to come in to provide good, cheap reinforcements when they are up against the cap.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 12, 2021 at 2:03 p.m.
Thread: Final Version - Kassian Trades Everywhere
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Aussie_Blackhawk</b></div><div>RNH will want more than 5M and will have plenty of offers.

Also that CHI deal has no benefit to us whatsoever. We don't need to move Seabrook due to LTIR so not a need to dump his cap, we have plenty. We don't want any of the proposed players you wish to dump to us.</div></div>

Dump on you? They are all useful NHL players and better than most, if not all of the bottom 6ers the Hawks used in 20-21.

Koski is a very good Goaltender when he is rested, he was over-played and Turris was absolutely brutal in the D-zone the first 3 weeks of the season. An NHL 3C would not have allowed so many freebies. Take those games out and MK had a good record.

What is Seabrook but a cap space-eater?
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 6, 2021 at 11:13 p.m.
Thread: Sabre-Rattling
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oilcntryrdnk</b></div><div>Sure and the AHL was a watered down mess. I’m good with JJ and or Shore not returning but you need proven NHLers in there to take those spots. Neither Benson or Marody are those pieces.</div></div>

I have a few counterpoints. I am a long-time Oilers fan and have been watching hockey, following the NHL draft and prospects and stats for a few decades. It's funny with this here CF team, it was not really a serious attempt, but I would like you to be aware of something, something I've read before that others believe to be fact, while it is actually completely false.

I watched 35 of the Condors 39 games, as well as all 6 of their playoff games. The Pacific Division was not watered down. The only NHL teams that handcuffed themselves with their AHL team this season were Edmonton, Vancouver (both teams were in the US) &amp; Tampa and Florida who shared a team.

In the Pacific Division all the teams had their affiliates very close, some in the same city. A total of 65 players from the Division (not including Bakersfield &amp; Tuscon, who BC did not play) played in the NHL (approximately 21%) of each opponents roster. That is not watered down competition.

When it comes to the 4th line players, here are some numbers for you, this is points per game last 3 yrs of amateur, last 3 of AHL, total NHL and points per 82 games.

1. Shore - 0.93 0.76 0.35 = 29
2. Archibald - 0.84 0.37 0.30 = 25
3. Khaira - 0.98 0.45 0.25 = 21

Here are the same for the AHLers, not including NHL.

1. Marody 1.00 0.92
2. Benson 1.54 0.91
3. McLeod 0.87 0.61

If you don't think any of these players can't do better than 29 points in 82 games, I am sorry, but you haven't been paying attention to the proper things...
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 6, 2021 at 2:59 p.m.
Thread: Sabre-Rattling
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oilcntryrdnk</b></div><div>The Oilers fan base will lose its minds if the team comes to camp with three rookies penciled in to the opening day roster. I can’t see 97 or 29 being happy with that scenario at all. No chance this happens. They must have 4 lines of NHL players period. The kids can push for a spot and maybe garner some NHL time later in the season. This is a make it or break it Offseason for Edmonton. The single most important off-season in franchise history.</div></div>

The 3 rookies are compromised of the top AHL goal scorer, the player who was 3rd in Assists and their #3 Center (and youngest of the 3). All have NHL experience and all spent time practicing with the team during their time in the bubble last year.

I would rather see:

Benson-McLeod-Marody than
Shore-Kharia-Archibald.

But the coach might agree with you.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 6, 2021 at 2:14 p.m.
Thread: Sabre-Rattling
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oilcntryrdnk</b></div><div>I too looked at adding Skinner in mine but in the end I just see him as an anchor.
Gusev is a small player not what this team needs. I looked at the possible uptick in scoring with him but again the players size doesn’t fit.


You have way to many kids on this roster and in the end you picked up Hamilton and immediately exited the playoffs. If this team makes the playoffs.

This roster gets a D minus from me…not that my opinion matters…lol</div></div>

You are correct, although that D Corps is championship calibre. Weegar is a substantial defender and Reilly is a very under-rated Dman, an excellent passer and is surprisingly physical.

Regardless, the Skinner contract kills everything, but the rookies are all 3rd and 4th year pros. Not a problem on the 4th line and 3rd pair.I agree that this line up is on the small side.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 6, 2021 at 2:07 p.m.
Thread: Ooooh Ahhhhh Mmmmm Hmmmm Oilers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wilbur</b></div><div>Significant pieces:
1. 2021 1st
2. 2022 1st
3. 2022 2nd
4. Ethan Bear - RHD - spent significant time as a 1st pair partner with Nurse as a rookie and about 30% on 1st pair in his second year.
5. Kailer Yamamoto - In rookie season played on top scoring line in NHL after his call-up in Jan 2020, spent 85% of his time with 97 &amp; 29.
6. Raphael Lavoie - Rookie pro, top signed forward prospect for Edm at start of season.
7. Dmitri Samorukov - Top in +/- as a KHL rookie, 5 tool Dman, only behind Bouchard &amp; Broberg on prospect depth chart.

So I count 7 steak dinners.... and Edmonton is left with 3 picks in the 1st 10 rounds of the next 2 Drafts, and almost completely drains the Oilers prospect pool, not sure how you see this as so lopsided....

Along with Kahun, Khaira, Lagesson, Kemp and prospect Tyler Tullio, these are useful NHL depth assets.</div></div>
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 6, 2021 at 2:06 p.m.
Thread: Ooooh Ahhhhh Mmmmm Hmmmm Oilers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Cbzblaze</b></div><div>Don't take it personal bud. It's fun seeing different perspectives that people have.

But you've solved Edmonton's depth issues by assembling 2 solid scoring lines, a great shutdown 3rd line, a championship level defence and a solid upgrade in goal. The real beauty is you did it all without moving a single significant piece out and got rid of every bad contract as well.
Expect some criticism.</div></div>

Significant pieces:
1. 2021 1st
2. 2022 1st
3. 2022 2nd
4. Ethan Bear - RHD - spent significant time as a 1st pair partner with Nurse as a rookie and about 30% on 1st pair in his second year.
5. Kailer Yamamoto - In rookie season played on top scoring line in NHL after his call-up in Jan 2020, spent 85% of his time with 97 &amp; 29.
6. Raphael Lavoie - Rookie pro, top signed forward prospect for Edm at start of season.
7. Dmitri Samorukov - Top in +/- as a KHL rookie, 5 tool Dman, only behind Bouchard &amp; Broberg on prospect depth chart.

So I count 7 steak dinners.... and Edmonton is left with 3 picks is the 1st 10 rounds of the next 2 Drafts, and almost completely drains the Oilers prospect pool, not sure how you see this as so lopsided....

Along with Kahun, Khaira, Lagesson, Kemp and prospect Tyler Tullio, these are useful NHL assets.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 5, 2021 at 10:05 p.m.
Thread: Ooooh Ahhhhh Mmmmm Hmmmm Oilers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bolts20Cup</b></div><div>The Bolts easily decline, this is one of the 2 or 3 worst trades (not posted in sarcasm) ive ever seen on here please give me 1 rational reason Tampa Bay would do this . Neither Cirelli nor Sergachev are cap fodder</div></div>

Yamamoto and Bear are still not yet what they are going to be and they are very good and are cheaper than they will ever be.

Tampa is in trouble with their Cap, if they want to find value in what seems like one-sided deals they may have to take "hits" like this.

See Devon Toews from last season and Nick Leddy from a few years ago.

This is reality, but The Bolts completely dodged that bullet this past season with LTIR providing massive cover for being way above the Cap Ceiling.

There will be lots of great players being moved out by cash crunched teams this summer. TB might not get spared this year.