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Wreckless
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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4 at 1:36 p.m.
Thread: Boone Jenner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wreckless</b></div><div>All fair points. What I meant was giving bigger roles to younger players. Point taken in overall age of the team, however. My point is if it were me, I’d unload Elvis, Jenner, etc.
We keep Matheson because he has a well defined role, and we already have 4-5 rookie D playing every night outside of him and Savard.</div></div>

Fully agree there, that's on FO and management though to give the younger players those roles, which this FO has historically been <em>very </em>hard-nosed on. They won't even give our internal options that leash, so it would be weird to see them trade for more options.

I think Jenner has that very defined role for us as well, he's playing top-6 C when the rest of the center core is under 24 (aside from Kuraly). I'd also unload Elvis (if there's a buyer without retention), Provorov, and Peeke. And fwiw, I'd also unload Jenner; his value will never be higher, the market is perfect for top-6 centers on cheap deals with term, and he wouldn't play much more than a 3C/4C role during our contention window in a few years. But the FO has been explicit on him not being available, so it would take their firing first for him to be moved.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4 at 12:58 p.m.
Thread: Boone Jenner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wreckless</b></div><div>What are your biggest areas of need?</div></div>

Number 1 imo is a top pair RD (Obviously Jenner isn't bringing a return that would definitely fill that, but a young RD prospect with upside would probably be something they'd look for)

Jiricek is the only guy in the org currently that could be that for them. While I'm very confident in him as a prospect and think the recent issues with him will easily smooth over with staff changes in the offseason, putting all their eggs in that basket with absolutely no alternative would be unwise.

2nd is probably goalie.
The future with Elvis is unknown, Tarasov looks like he's not long for the NHL once the FO who loves him is gone. Jet Greaves has shown some really good things, but is still a big unknown for the NHL long term. Idk, goalie prospects are weird, you don't see them traded as much, and I doubt Montreal would have a guy that's both good and they'd be willing to move. That's probably need no. 2 tho.

Those are the 2 that stick out. Middle 6 C (ideally 2C upside) is maybe something else they'd look for, especially with Jenner moving out. It's not a NEED like it was a while back, but adding more there to have more options Down the line is never bad.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4 at 12:54 p.m.
Thread: Boone Jenner
"Jarmo surrounds Laine with his countrymen. I don’t think he gives up on him. But the team needs to start the rebuild."
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wreckless</b></div><div>Rebuild. Get younger. That’s 3 young assets (including the pick).</div></div>

We're already the <a href="https://leftwinglock.com/teams/biometrics/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">3rd-youngest team in the league</a>, with an average age of just 0.1 years older than Montreal. Saying we need to "start the rebuild" is like saying MTL needs to sell Matheson to "start the rebuild". It's well underway already, and we're on the way out.

We also need NHL vets to show our literal teenagers the ropes. The oldest player on the roster is Gudbranson (32), and half our regular forwards are U25. Arguably, the team's youth is the biggest problem (aside from the FO).

The surplus of this team is youth, middle-6 forwards, and LD. No reason to add more of that, especially at the expense of our captain and one of the few leaders in an already very young room. If we move Boone, it's either for a legit 2RD long term, a couple of high draft picks (that we likely deal for additional NHL help), or a center prospect with top-6 potential. If he's moved, it's to a contender that's looking for a 2C and is willing to pay out the a** to get it, a la Lindholm and Monahan.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4 at 12:41 p.m.
Thread: Boone Jenner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wreckless</b></div><div>Harris is already a top 4 D, and it’s just his second year.

Mark my words about Ylonen. And my question is what pick would it take on top of that?

Boone Jenner isn’t getting any young, and Kirby Dach got traded for a 1st and a 3rd, and Newhook for the 31st and 37th overall picks.

My guess is Winnipeg’s 1st should be more than enough with the rest of that package.</div></div>

Idk anything a out Ylonen, so I can't speak on that, but Columbus is more than set at LD for the future. Can't imagine they'd move out Boone if that's the highlight, even of you want to say he's for sure a top 4 d now. For Columbus to have any chance of moving him, it'd take both a big overpay and the returning assets would need to fill needs, not areas of surpluss.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 2 at 7:43 p.m.
Thread: Monahan is not going to be traded for a first round pick
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>Wrong valuation but I somewhat agree
Harris second
Primeau fourth
Pearson negative fifth (or seventh retained)
Vanecek negative third
So about a second and a third for the package</div></div>

I could see Harris getting a 2nd potentially.

I think NJD tries to take advantage of the crunch here if it’s us like we did for Siegenthaler.

With Barron, Xhekaj, Struble, Matheson, Kovacevic, Guhle, Savard. That already makes 7 other dmen.

Then if Mailloux/Hutson/Reinbacher are ready that’s 3 more.

I don’t believe Montreal wants to have less than 2 vet dman on the roster so I expect at least 2 of the vets to stay. Dont wanna run out all rookies.

The current system of keeping Barron down in the minors doesn’t seem like a long term solution.

I’d say something has to give and I’d expect to be the LD without waiver exemption status
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 20 at 4:08 p.m.
Thread: Elliotte Friedman says kings looking to add a goalie Maybe Allen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wreckless</b></div><div>Last I checked, this site is about spitballing on what could be possible. We could keep him. We could move if if someone offers what Hughes thinks is enough. One of those things is true. The other doesn’t get posted.

Which Habs goalie do you think moves? To where? For how much? Or do you think the Habs keep 3 G for another full season? And why, in detail, for what you propose?

Ahhhh, but that’s hard. Easier to dump on why you think the thoughts of others are wrong. When this entire site is consistently all an exercise in low probability.</div></div>

So many dont give answers to your arguments but attack the posters instead of the argument with platitudes.
Simply see any of the <a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/792833?post_id=4627745">Monahan madness</a> where some here claim that it's very unlikely that Monahan does get a 1st because of 'reasons' yet its mostly piggy bagging tribalism and lets all point and laugh because we disagree together more than someone with the idea that we don't like..
BUT put through an actual hypothesis with the same stats/metrics/contract situation/position/age like Pageau and Copp compared to Monahan and its deemed the exception because you are trying too hard to justify a position you are defending.

You cant win if posters wont accept 1+1=2 but instead they rather think 1+1 could equal dog.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19 at 5:59 p.m.
Thread: Friedman says Kings add a goalie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wreckless</b></div><div>Easy to get points when you can’t play both sides of the ice, you’re playing on a brutally bad team, you get premium powerplay time, most of the offensive zone opportunities, and the best lines mates.

They’re all from the same draft class. Dach was taken 3rd over all and will probably end up the best of the bunch long term. Downside of Zegras is that now he’s over paid, and he’s only on a short term deal.</div></div>

And he's also nitpicking.

<a href="/users/Jah1722" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Jah1722</a>
Zegras has 7 points this season in 20games. A 30 point pace which is half of Dach's pace last season. See how I can nitpick the stats in my favour and ignore all context.
Once expectations grew with a bigger contract. Bad team effect much like Max Domi and AA on Chicago, someone has to score the goals on a bad team.
That explains Zegras production as a rookie to now.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19 at 4:07 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19 at 2:51 p.m.
Thread: Elliotte Friedman says kings looking to add a goalie Maybe Allen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wreckless</b></div><div>I was curious which contract the kings fan base might would want to dump. Any insight there would be valuable. Which might be first on the chopping block is more value added than “not any $4M of their players”, as though $4mm is some kind of monolith.</div></div>

Arvidsson would be the best candidate, but the Kings need Arvidsson more than Allen particularly when you look at their powerplay last season with him and what they are now. Look at the Kings goaltending SV%, they aren't the problem. They are looking for someone for next season, but I think you would look at a young 1B like Lankinen, Ersson, Dostal. Plenty of goaltenders will be willing to take budget contracts next season to salvage their career: Murray, Samsanov, Raanta, etc. If the Kings are serious about contending in the playoffs, I can't see Allen as the answer when better goaltenders could be obtained at similar cap hits like: Ullmark, Hart, etc.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19 at 2:17 p.m.
Thread: Elliotte Friedman says kings looking to add a goalie Maybe Allen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>Allen is a career .908 vs. Talbot career .914 at a budget contract. Unless Allen is retained this contract doesnt work. Arvidsson is already on the ice which means when he's healthy the Kings have $4M they don't have money for.</div></div>

.908 is quite average these days. And, average goaltending is getting to be less common and attractive among contenders.

50% retention would cost a pretty penny. The retention alone is worth a 2nd with the extra term. Id be hard pressed to trade Allen @50% for anything less than a 2nd and a prospect when the prices at the TDL should balloon. That said they dont have to move him at all.

Moving him to the Devils for bad money in Vanecek and a pick to NJ can even be done as at least theyd wouldnt have to sacrifice cap space next season as opposed to the Kings whom simply get cap flexbility. You need to offer something better.