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Wreckless

Wreckless
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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 25 at 10:40
Thread: If Danault wants to stay
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SevenLeg</b></div><div>Toffoli's a weird signing to gauge. He had a good run in Vancouver and was great in LA for the most time, but nothing impressive either. Center is a prime position and teams are naturally enticed to value them more than wingers, so there's that. There are numerous teams with wholes at center on their top 9 and would likely be willing to bring Danault in. The argument that he played with good players is also worthless, as the gap between him and Tatar is little. The three players just ended up having great chemisty and that's pretty much it, there was not a single player carrying the team at the moment.</div></div>

Which teams do you think?

Re: linesmates, the numbers don’t lie. Gallagher is a consistent top 5 5on5 scorer in the entire NHL.

Your point about centers getting paid more is a fact. But that refers 100% exclusively to centers who are also decent scorers. Danault is not. He is the highest paid 13 goal max center in the entire NHL already at a $3.08mm cap hit.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 25 at 10:12
Forum: Montreal CanadiensFeb 24 at 9:33
Forum: Montreal CanadiensFeb 24 at 8:31
Thread: Gord Miller
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bhavikp27</b></div><div>I don't care about Price or the Canadiens. Price was the best goalie in the league in 2015 and I can perfectly admit that.

"<em>“3-4 years of average play” is where you an I (and also the NHL players who vote on this every year) diverge</em>" I don't really know how you can prove the opposite and same for the players. It's all reputation. Literally anyone can vote for a guy, it's about being able to back up what you say with facts. Eye test or basic/advanced stats or analytics, Price's been average but alright, we'll just agree to disagree.</div></div>

2013-2014, 2014-2015, 2015-2016, 2016-2017, 2018-2019: not much we need to say. Elite.
2017-2018 stats dropped off, what happened that season? Weber out most of the year. Petry was a -30. The rest of our top 6 in games played: Alzner, Benn, Mete, Schlemko, and Morrow. Enough said.
Last year Price was, again, elite. Especially when it counted most, in the playoffs.

Rumours of Price’s demise have been greatly exaggerated.

Does he need to play better? Yes. Do we have reason to believe he won’t? Not any good ones that I can see.
Forum: Montreal CanadiensFeb 24 at 8:06
Thread: Gord Miller
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bhavikp27</b></div><div>Playing well for 10 games after a 4.5-month break will certainly outweigh 3-4 years of average play. Wait...no. Why would he get bounce back/return to his 2014 form, especially at this age? There's a case for both sides.</div></div>

“3-4 years of average play” is where you an I (and also the NHL players who vote on this every year) diverge. But then again, you’re a Bruins fan, so we’re supposed to diverge.

Not that it’s impossible to be objective...for example, Patrice Bergeron has been one of my favourite players in the league for a long time. But from experience, I’ve found many Bruins fans (and Habs fans as well for that matter) lack the ability to be objective about the star players of their direct rivals.
Forum: Montreal CanadiensFeb 24 at 7:47
Thread: Gord Miller
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Howisjulienstillhere</b></div><div>I play goalie (not elite but I understand the position) things that I’ve noticed from price are he is still incredibly athletic, he’s made several great saves every night including against Ottawa last night. He seems to be giving up some **** goals, which i believe is mental. Pure athleticism will allow you to make the amazing saves but the mental game is we’re some bad goals go in. Last year he had stretches of poor play and others of incredible play. He then saw an opportunity in front of him when they expanded the playoffs and the Habs qualified. He was mentally sharp. Not saying this new coach will fix him, but a new situation along with some wins and good play from him might ‘flip a switch’ and help him mentally. I think he can still be a high end goalie, especially if the team plays better in front of him</div></div>

I’m with you. He looks to me like he’s been less focused than his usual 100th percentile level of focus. So it definitely stands out. But again, we’re talking about a really small sample size, at the start of the season, and in a covid season with no fans (that i am absolutely certain he draws energy from), no less. I’m not sure that focus/concentration is something that you typically lose at 33 years old though. If I’m Bergevin right now, honestly, Carey Price is the last thing I’d be concerned about. Carey and Waite should be able to nip this in the bud in pretty short order.
Forum: Montreal CanadiensFeb 24 at 7:24
Thread: Gord Miller
I have a HUGE amount of respect for your opinions.
Carey Price has been average, at best, during many of his performances this season. I agree.
But do we really think he’s not going to return to his all world form?
Do we really take a day where there’s been a coaching change (because the whole team has been playing poorly) to ponder if Price will resemble an aging Lundqvist? Because of a sample size of 11 regular season games? When the team overall has also been poor recently?
Price was all world last postseason, as he has been most of his career. To the point that Anderson, Toffoli, Edmundson, etc. all chose to sign here long term? Do most elite goaltenders stop being good at 33? 34? 35?

Our defense was solid to start the season and the team was winning. If I had to point to one event, Victor Mete’s agent shot his mouth off speaking (erroneously) for Bergevin about what was “in the best interest of the team” before being refuted directly that he was not going to trade him, and that it’s not an agent’s place to say what’s in the best interest of the team.
The error here, in my opinion, was with Julien for playing Mete. Julien broke up the Romanov Kulak pairing, and I’d argue that neither Romanov, nor Kulak, nor the rest of our D, nor Carey Price, nor our forward group as a whole, have been as good since.

Ironically, when Ferris said that it would be in the best interest of the team to work together to find a trade, despite being wrong for speaking about what the team was going to do, he might have been right that trading a malcontent is better for team cohesion than keeping him (especially when you choose to play him when you’d probably be better off continuing to sit him).

It’ll be interesting to see what Ducharme does with Mete. If I had to bet though, I imagine the coaching change alone will be enough to light a fire into Price and we should see both him, and the rest of the team, back at the top of their potential in short order.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 24 at 12:23
Thread: Fresh Start
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SevenLeg</b></div><div>I can see Tatar flourishing under Ducharme. He didn't have any room under Julien.</div></div>

Tatar and Danault, for me, were arguably the two biggest winners under Julien. Prime minutes with Gallagher, one of the best 5 on 5 scorers in the NHL for multiple years straight now (despite Gallagher playing with less than elite lines mates).

If we gave Lehkonen that same opportunity, I imagine he’d pile up the points also. I like Tatar, but the reality of the situation re: cap, we probably won’t be able to keep him. I imagine he’ll be easier to move than Byron. I don’t see us keeping both at the deadline (barring injuries to others) when that cap space could otherwise be used to improve our depth at D or at center.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 24 at 11:59
Thread: This is how you move on from Price
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>And do you have a problem with having a conversation...you are the one who first said that debating the idea of that price is untradeable. I gave you my logic with back up of why I agree with that statement, now lets hear yours...you are arguing that is tradable so what is your logic, or do you have 0 conviction behind your opinion and just fan boying bc you don't like anyone talking poorly about Price?

You an dismiss the idea all you want saying its just an opinion, but lets here yours.

And dont be passive aggressive with patronizing someone trying to use the idea of mental health in an attempt to insult them, that is pathetic of you</div></div>

It’s very difficult to have a conversation with someone who immediately refutes that their opinion is, in fact, an opinion. You were, in the same post, invited to suggest who your top 5 would be to start the playoffs this season. Not surprisingly, you didn’t offer your point of view.