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Forum: Armchair-GM2 hours ago

Thread: Hockey Trades

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Congrats buddy lol</div></div>
lol not really coming on the site these days but it seems like the continuous non-sense will keep going on!

Joseph + Ottawa's 1st + 2nd for Scott freaking Laughton!

:tearsofjoy

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 12:21 a.m.

Thread: Blockbuster

Rantanen is great and everything but no way I'd pay Tkachuk, Pinto and a Top-7 pick

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 3 at 4:15 p.m.

Thread: hear me out

No the type of deal Ottawa will be looking for

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 3 at 10:04 a.m.

Thread: Time to See Some Prospects

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazorSeider53</b></div><div>Hey bud, you're the genius trying to explain how Chychrun's value has somehow <em>increased</em> since you overpaid for him last year. I dunno what to tell you.</div></div>
12th OA has a lot more value than a random 1st, I thought had a contender's 1st at first but now see that they only have their own pick (which surprised me as they are still rebuilding), you consider that trolling

The thing is we agree in the end :

- without a 1st = not enough

- with the Red Wings 1st = too much

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 3 at 12:41 a.m.

Thread: Time to See Some Prospects

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazorSeider53</b></div><div>The Wings pick is in the same area it was when you last posted this nonsense but I appreciate the bad troll attempt to try to deflect the spotlight off your **** up lol.

Anyways, tell me more about how Chychrun returns the same or more value than Ottawa paid for him last year, with only a year now remaining on his contract and a season much worse than the one he was putting on in Arizona when he was moved.</div></div>
There's no trolling, there's no nonsense, just the usual crap from a dummy on the internet

Keep it going, it sure makes you look brilliant

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 2 at 12:49 p.m.

Thread: Time to See Some Prospects

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazorSeider53</b></div><div>You literally said "Remove Chiarot, add a 1st" which makes the trade the price that I was laughing at...</div></div>
Since the Wings pick is becoming so valuable yes but a late 1st + 2nd + 3rd + Berggren would be in the ballpark. Of course, non-Wings fans might value Berggren very differently

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 2 at 12:34 p.m.

Thread: LeafsBruins

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>StutzlesNumber1Fan</b></div><div>Chych down year + 2nd for a certified #1?</div></div>
Chychrun has a 0.49 PPG this season, career 0.46 PPG

Yes he had 0.78 PPG with Arizona last season but it was only in 36 games

While his value might not be as high as it was a year ago, he was still worth 12th OA + two 2nd round picks

As for "certified #1", you have to consider his numbers are on Boston and he only has 1 year left before UFA and even if you ignore the fact that he might not want to extend in Ottawa, it all comes down to the market and I have never seen in the real world a goalie being worth what fans throw around in proposals.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 2 at 12:27 p.m.

Thread: Time to See Some Prospects

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazorSeider53</b></div><div>Just a heads up, I believe the OP has been edited. I believe there was a 1st initially in that Chychrun trade, which is why I said <em>"If we're trading a <strong>1st,</strong> 2nd, 3rd, and Berggren, I'd sooner move that for Rasmus Andersson as a natural RHD who's a better defender than Chychrun at roughly the same cost."</em>

And you're not getting a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and Berggren for Chychrun <strong>lol</strong>. That's more than what you paid for him last year when he was having a better season and had more time on that contract.</div></div>
Why the lol if you are aware that I was not aware of the 1st before edition?

Also, not all 1sts are equal. Basic stuff

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31 at 2:05 p.m.

Thread: next season

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Riddick19</b></div><div>That is ludicrous to think his mind was made up. DeBrincat even hinted he was willing to stay but wanted a massive payday. Dorion believed he would be able to get him signed. Sometimes that's the risk you have to take. Like I said, if this team had a coach that was semi-decent at teaching a defensive structure? We wouldn't be anywhere near where we are in the standings. So most of his moves weren't bad, but became sour with one main decision he refused to acknowledge. One mistake makes many of his moves look worse than they really were.</div></div>
Of course the decision to stick with DJ the whole rebuild hurt everything else but Dorion has made more blunders than any GM I have ever seen

What we have left for

Mika Zibanejad + 33rd OA in 201 + 64th OA in 2018 is ----> Jacob Bernard-Docker

Mark Stone is ----> Erik Brannstrom + Egor Sokolov

Kyle Turris + 4th OA in 2019 + 28th OA in 2017 + 63rd OA in 2019 is ----> Lassi Thomson

Mike Hoffman + 126th OA in 2020 is ----> Philippe Daoust

7th OA in 2022 + 39th OA in 2022 + 2024 3rd round pick (OTT) is ----> 2024 1st round pick (BOS) + 2024 4th round pick (DET) + Donovan Sebrango

10th OA in 2021 is ----> Tyler Boucher

Ryan Dzingel + 212th OA in 2019 + 76th OA in 2023 + 2024 7th round pick (OTT) + 25% retention on Murray AAV is ----> absolutely nothing

Cody Ceci + Ben Harpur + 44th OA in 2023 + 2026 4th round pick (OTT) is ----> 2024 2nd round pick (WSH)

And we're not even talking about the 1st round pick we'll have to forfeit because of the Dadonov situation and all the other blunders

it is INDEFENSIBLE

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31 at 1:36 p.m.

Thread: Dalibor Dvorsky

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>batman</b></div><div>damn he that ass?</div></div>
He can't develop if he can't play... Look at the number of games he has played the last 4 seasons

He turns 22 y/o next season, he has a long way to go if he hopes to get back on the NHL track.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31 at 12:54 p.m.

Thread: Put Some Respect on Reineys Name

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>The difference between Dallas pick and Montreal’s is about 14 OA. He ain’t worth that</div></div>
The question in the end is what is Bourque worth? If he's worth let's say a 12th OA pick, wouldn't that pick + a late first be worth a 6th/7th OA pick?

I understand the desire to keep that 1st but personally I would gamble on Bourque plus another first round pick prospect

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31 at 12:51 p.m.

Thread: Dalibor Dvorsky

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sens65</b></div><div>I wouldn't give him up though, he doesn't cost us anything and there's a real chance he'll be an impactful player 5 years from now.</div></div>
You never know but I'd be very surprised if he even makes it to the NHL.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 29 at 4:45 p.m.

Thread: Put Some Respect on Reineys Name

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>I get Bourque has been really good, but not top 7 pick good</div></div>
Huge believer in Bourque here and it's not just him, it's Dallas' first too

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 29 at 4:44 p.m.

Thread: Dalibor Dvorsky

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sens65</b></div><div>To me the Boucher offer is like this:

Would you rather give up a lottery ticket or pay $7 for the product?

Boucher is the lottery ticket and Kelly or the pick is the $7.</div></div>
I'm not sure about the analogy... Boucher isn't much of a gamble anymore, he's looking like a pure bust.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 29 at 4:42 p.m.

Thread: LeafsBruins

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>StutzlesNumber1Fan</b></div><div>I think Chychrun + maybe a 2nd for Ullmark is close, but we're also dumping Forsy in the deal and swapping 1sts when 2025 draft is much deeper and better. Remove the picks and it's close imo.</div></div>
No way a goalie is worth all that, I have never seen it in 35 years following the NHL closely

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 29 at 3:47 p.m.

Thread: Put Some Respect on Reineys Name

I wouldn't do this if I was Dallas

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 29 at 3:44 p.m.

Thread: Dalibor Dvorsky

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>my_name_is_Fil</b></div><div>also, top d young like ghule, worth 3 dailbors</div></div>
lol no.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sens65</b></div><div>What about Erik Brannstrom?</div></div>
The guy offered you Kovacevic for Kelly and you propose him Brannstrom? Why would you do that to yourself?

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>batman</b></div><div>How about Boucher for Kovy. I know he was a first rounder not long ago, but his development hasn’t been great.</div></div>
Heartbeat. I don't think Boucher is worth more than a 4th right now, can't stay healthy to develop.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 29 at 3:38 p.m.

Thread: LeafsBruins

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>StutzlesNumber1Fan</b></div><div>Leafs and Boston get scammed lol</div></div>
How?

You think a goalie with 1 year left is worth Chychrun whose price was 12th OA + 2nd + 2nd just a year ago?

Even if Ullmark is interested in extending in Ottawa long term at a reasonable price, it's expensive. But you still do it as they need to stabilize the position

Agreed for the Toronto trade though. It's Liljegren and the 1st plus taking on Korpisalo contract that make it unbalanced

Anyway, not realistic at all, Tavares in Ottawa lol

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 29 at 3:34 p.m.

Thread: Throwing ____ at the wall

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sens65</b></div><div>Ottawa is not doing that.

Jarry is barely an upgrade over Forsberg and he's $2.5 million more expensive.</div></div>
Plus, Ostapchuk is easily worth a 1st for the Sens, a staple on the bottom-6 for years to come. And that 2nd too

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 29 at 3:31 p.m.

Thread: 2025

Sens needs :

- 2-way Top-6 Winger
- Top-4 RHD
- Solid Goaltender

Chychrun and one of Korpisalo/Forsberg could be moved.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 29 at 3:29 p.m.

Thread: Time to See Some Prospects

Remove Chiarot, add a 1st

or EASY pass.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazorSeider53</b></div><div>2. That's wayyyyy too much for Chychrun.</div></div>
lol wut????

Chiarot is a significant cap dump with 2 years left at 4.75 AAV. Where's the payment for that?

And you're not getting Chychrun for Berggren + 2nd + 3rd

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 29 at 3:26 p.m.

Thread: Hronek to MTL

Change "2024 3rd round pick (MIN)" to a 1st in 2025 (MTL or CGY)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SadSensFan14</b></div><div>If it was only 25% retained but the habs give up colorado's 2nd, honestly the Sens should consider that.</div></div>
Consider trading a 1st for David freaking Savard? lol

Is that you Pierre?

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 29 at 3:24 p.m.

Thread: Complete overhaul

Where's the retention on Karlsson?

Sanderson - Karlsson
Chabot - Zub
Kleven - Brannstrom
JBD

Trade Chyhrun for a forward

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 29 at 2:45 p.m.

Thread: Let The Pain End

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SadSensFan14</b></div><div>Why do you detaste chychryn so much? At least he doesn't get injured every game like Chabot, and he's better than Chabby anyway. <strong>Chabby and Tkatchuk need to go</strong>, not Chych.</div></div>
No.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 29 at 2:40 p.m.

Thread: Cost and availability

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sens65</b></div><div>Brannstrom will almost certainly be traded in the offseason. He's a good player but the Sens need big, strong, defensive defensemen on the bottom pairing.

The cost will probably be a 2nd round pick or a similar type player.</div></div>
Sanderson - Zub
Chabot - DeMelo
Kleven - Brannstrom
JBD

Problem is to get DeMelo signed.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>emoprettyboy</b></div><div>I’d be pretty upset if the Sens moved Branny for anything less than a 2nd, and even then I wouldn’t be too happy. not that he’s worth more than that, I just think he’s one of those players that is more valuable to the team he’s on than what his trade value would be</div></div>
Exactly. Always great metrics

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