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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2021 at 10:25 a.m.

Thread: Disappointment RETOOL marner for eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangle</b></div><div>adding robertson doesn't have anything to do with risto. to me risto is a cap dump. adding robertson is there to compensate for the difference in skill and value between eichel and marner.</div></div>

thats what the prospects + picks were for

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2021 at 10:15 a.m.

Thread: Hello Leafs --- you cannot say no

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYRFan92360244</b></div><div>Which one could you possibly be declining?</div></div>

i would painfully and regrettably accept the matthews and marner trades. hard to say no to that.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2021 at 10:09 a.m.

Thread: Hello Leafs --- you cannot say no

on behalf leafs, i would instinctively say no...

but damn, does that package look worth a second glance.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2021 at 10:05 a.m.

Thread: Marner and fixing

grossly overpayment on buffalo deal.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2021 at 9:55 a.m.

Thread: Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sabreshockey53</b></div><div>yes, Howden is young, but he's not good at all. Either way, when they make the Eichel trade Jack they need good forward prospects and draft picks.</div></div>

yeah, buffalo needs somewhere in the ballpark of
- a gauranteed top line player mid-long term
- a gauranteed depth piece cost controlled long term
- a project development prospect (top line or bust)
- a high 2nd or low 1st round pick

or

- at least one high 1st round pick
- and a bunch of mid - low 1st round pick

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2021 at 9:50 a.m.

Thread: Losing Skinner but so much more

sabres loses on every one of these trades lol

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2021 at 9:48 a.m.

Thread: Shake up I guess plus Toronto deal

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tjm220</b></div><div>Pass on the Winnipeg and Edmonton deals. They don’t make Buffalo better, just worse.</div></div>

toronto probably passes.
nylander is in a manageable contract and too much uncertainty with sam.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2021 at 9:46 a.m.

Thread: different Eichel trade suggestions

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Alfie11</b></div><div>The Sabres have no talent that may blossom. If Eichel/Reinhart leave them, all their prospect pool has to show for endless years of sucking is two D (Dahlin and Joker), two forwards (Cozens and Quinn), and maybe a goalie (UPL). Decent prospects, but not an indicator of future success when the roster is otherwise barren and the prospect pool lacks depth behind them (which is really inexcusable, Johnson and Peterka are okay but everyone else is pretty mediocre).</div></div>

their prospect pool might get better as they likely to win the 1st OVR this year. so consider you will have OWEN POWER in your roster.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2021 at 9:41 a.m.

Thread: different Eichel trade suggestions

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pete</b></div><div>hi, who said Sabres accept this trade if Jones is unwilling to extend his contract? this happens only if he accepts</div></div>

you did by not mentioning that in the description.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2021 at 9:39 a.m.

Thread: simple swap

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BOSSMAN</b></div><div>Both healthy 19-20 season.

Eichel 68 GP, 36 G 78 P / 1.1 PPG

Mathews 70 GP, 47G 80 P / 1.1 PPG

When Eichel is healthy he is as good if not better than Matthews get outta here bud</div></div>

eichel = matthews is the hottest take on capfriendly

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2021 at 9:37 a.m.

Thread: simple swap

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tjm220</b></div><div>Eichel‘s contract is longer and less expensive. What does Toronto add to the deal?</div></div>

you think <em>toronto</em> needs to add to this???!!

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2021 at 9:31 a.m.

Thread: Disappointment RETOOL marner for eichel

buffalo likely 1stOVR this year that will be NHL ready.

they probably looking for a roster player in the eichel trade rather than future picks to develop 3-5 years later.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2021 at 9:29 a.m.

Thread: Disappointment RETOOL marner for eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Ive been on the Eichels gone boat since March, Toronto specifically has to over pay</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>basicallyyakupov</b></div><div>fair point. i cant argue with that comment.</div></div>

but... can't choke in the playoffs if you don't even make the playoffs.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2021 at 9:27 a.m.

Thread: Disappointment RETOOL marner for eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>No</div></div>

you convinced me.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2021 at 9:27 a.m.

Thread: Disappointment RETOOL marner for eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangle</b></div><div>change liljegren and dermott to robertson and i think buffalo would consider that.</div></div>

i dont think so considering risto is a rental and leafs would be trading from a positional need standpoint.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2021 at 9:25 a.m.

Thread: Disappointment RETOOL marner for eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JokiStan</b></div><div>Well to start, we wouldn't want a historic playoff choker that cost upwards of 11M</div></div>

fair point. i cant argue with that comment.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2021 at 9:23 a.m.

Thread: Disappointment RETOOL marner for eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Ive been on the Eichels gone boat since March, Toronto specifically has to over pay</div></div>

if the overpayment is due to "same division rivals" then i think both teams pass because it goes both ways.

if it is based on principal value, i dont think buffalo is in a position to ask for an overpayment.

either scenario, looks like both teams pass.

toronto keeps marner

buffalo shops elsewhere and get a bunch of 1st round draft picks.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2021 at 9:20 a.m.

Thread: Disappointment RETOOL marner for eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Sabres pass, its not close</div></div>

curious what you expect sabres will get?

eichel probably wont fetch laffy nor kappo from NYR.
"Vitali Kravtsov, a roster player, a young prospect defenseman (Nils Lundkvist or Braden Schneider excluded), and a first round pick" is a what they are quoting

"If the roster player in the deal was Ryan Strome for example, the package I mentioned would have three first rounders in it. Reasonable indeed and probably hard to beat."
is this a better deal? i dont think so.

i also dont think there is a team giving up 4x 1st rounders

buffalo have very little leverage and any more on the trade, leafs would be in better shape to pass.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2021 at 9:12 a.m.

Thread: Disappointment RETOOL marner for eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ColonelX</b></div><div>Issue there is that Toronto isn't clearing much cap, that's what you need to actually have a good bottom six not filled with perennial playoff losers. Edmonton/Toronto = Same battle, cap is stuck on a few players so you filled the bottom six with whoever is ready to take under a million and a half, the thing is that the GM isn't as good as others when he circles around the bargain bin.</div></div>

i dont disagree with you. but its just the way the team is built philosophically. i dont think they going to change that mentality. its about finding the right fit and puzzle pieces with a little luck most likely.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2021 at 9:11 a.m.

Thread: Disappointment RETOOL marner for eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>0% chance they trade Eichel to Toronto unless its the stupidest overpay in the history of the league, Marner isnt <em>that</em> interesting</div></div>

eichel is going to end up somewhere. same with ristolainen.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 19, 2020 at 7:55 a.m.

Thread: LEAFS CUP RUN WITH KANE amp TOEWS

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Letter_Kenny</b></div><div>Fire up the time machine! We're going back to 2015!</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Would be kind of like the Rangers load up of 80s Oilers for there 94 cup. It’s kind of interesting, but could back fire large if there’s no cup.</div></div>

oh the rebuild afterwards would be worse than the ballard era for sure. would bring 10 years of darkness. AM34 would probably end up leaving and lead a 5 cup run dynasty in Arizona for the Yotes.
tavares would waive his nmc and request a trade (thats how bad itll get). dubus fired. babcock comes back as dual role gm/coach like patty quinn. it would be rough.

but, im all for the chaos and gamble for 3 years of excitement. (rather than 5 years of stability)

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 19, 2020 at 7:48 a.m.

Thread: LEAFS CUP RUN WITH KANE amp TOEWS

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyTownUSA69</b></div><div>What?? to retain 5M for 3 years..lol. No team does that, ever?? What are u talking about. You know what 5M / year gets you in the NHL. No one retains that much money. In the history of the NHL. But they will so the Leafs can get u see the cap. Sure!!</div></div>

lets talk NYR with 13mil on the books this year
or if VGK wants to trade Flower, how much salary they'll have to retain? 2-3 mil sounds about right?

nylander will probably out perform his contract by 1 - 1.5mil by the end of it.
marner would probably meet expectations

toews and kane will under perform their 10 mil cap on their last years probably.

so yeah i still stand by the salary retention.
draft picks can go either way to balance the scale.

get out of here with your nonsense. you dont even take a sniff at this deal starter if you are chicago? the position chicago is in vs the position toronto is in? whatt???

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 19, 2020 at 2:38 a.m.

Thread: LEAFS CUP RUN WITH KANE amp TOEWS

thats the price to gain +2 years UFA of Marner & +1 year UFA of Nylander for their rebuild

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 19, 2020 at 2:33 a.m.

Thread: LEAFS CUP RUN WITH KANE amp TOEWS

would need to lose 5mill in cap space so Holl would be out as well too maybe.
sandin, liljegren, etc. are untouchable but a B-grade prospect + a 1st?

Kerfoot, Holl, a B-prospect, plus a 2021 1st round

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 19, 2020 at 2:31 a.m.

Thread: LEAFS CUP RUN WITH KANE amp TOEWS

paul marner, is that you?

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