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Forum: Armchair-GMJun 6, 2018 at 9:36
Forum: Armchair-GMJun 6, 2018 at 9:25
Forum: Armchair-GMJun 5, 2018 at 7:04
Thread: True words
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juice</b></div><div>It's ignorance like yours that likes to sit back after the fact and use 20-20 hindsight to tell others what a sh*t job they've done. I'm sure if Philly and Anaheim fail to dominate like you are stating (not predicting...but stating), you'll be back on here saying you were wrong.

No one here is saying that Shanahan needs a statue built for the awesome job he's done....but your arguments for him being trash are a joke.

For the record, no apologies needed..I haven't paid to attend a leaf game in about 10 years. Any food/beverage purchases get expensed... and I've been wearing the same Dougie Gilmour jersey for the same amount of time that I have no intentions of ever replacing. It replaced a kids size Felix Potvin jersey....so ya...I've been around the block for a while too.</div></div>

<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/8ovgr3/what_it_takes_to_get_a_top_pairing_defenseman/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/8ovgr3/what_it_takes_to_get_a_top_pairing_defenseman/</a>

See the words "drafted"

Good plan.

I'm going to buy a Powerball ticket tomorrow, so if I win, please refer to me as "smartest man on the planet" for winning the lottery with my "how to be successful" plan of "drinking way too many beers and arguing online with strangers and buying a lottery ticket".

Because that's the Leaves plan. Good ole boys club, winners of the lottery, paying idiots to "plan" for "success".
Forum: Armchair-GMJun 5, 2018 at 5:52
Forum: Armchair-GMJun 5, 2018 at 5:25
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Forum: Armchair-GMJun 5, 2018 at 5:02
Thread: Blues
Forum: Armchair-GMJun 3, 2018 at 4:02
Thread: Blues
Forum: Armchair-GMJun 1, 2018 at 1:43
Thread: True words
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juice</b></div><div>*clap, clap, clap*

Can we get a round of applause for this guy?

Obviously if the leafs drafted more D men in rounds 3-7 we’d surely have found a stud by now.

Third time you’re charging your argument and still come up cottony soft.

First off, the Leafs’ D isn’t as atrocious as you claim. Not great, but ranked 13th.

You want to look at track record of the first two rounds? Really? We have one of the best young offences in the game with those picks + Dermott and Liljegren who, without stretching the truth, are legit potential top 4 d-men.

You want to look outside the first two rounds? You go back and find me an impact d-man drafted in rounds 3-7 playing today. Spoiler alert....there isn’t one.

Now you want to hate on fans looking to deal from a position of strength to fill a hole in D?

You want to hate on the ‘Shanaplan’ but in 4 years took a perennial non-playoff team with nothing exciting in the pipeline to a playoff squad deep with young talent.

This team is built from the wings? This team was built strong up the middle and in net. Ignoring the fact that Nylander was drafted as a C and likely to be groomed there slowly.

Know that part about defence taking longer to develop? Ever think success came a little earlier than expected for the team and now some of the D is the system are either not ready (or never will be).

When Shanahan came on board, we had very few prospects in the system and a team of selfish, overpaid veterans. There were holes up and down the roster at every position. So the philosophy of ‘drafting the best player available’ was a smart one to go with. Now that success is ahead of schedule, they’re trying to catch up on defence.

Look. I get it if you’re annoyed by all the Toronto ACGM teams that almost always have us trading winger for D. You’re entitled to those feelings. But to lash out and blame poor management is simply wrong.</div></div>


You want an argument?

Fault me:

Toronto has drafted league leading proportionately low number of defenseman in the first 3 rounds since 2012 when Morgan Rielly and Matt Finn were selected.

Now many Toronto fans and media members are bashing the team's defense, rightfully so as the results show. Problem is, you can't have defense if you don't pick them.

In 2013 you selected 0 d in rounds 1, 2 and 3. 3 picks, all fowards
In 2014 you selected a d in round 2, 1 d, 2 forwards
In 2015 you selected a d in round 2, 1 d, 2 fowards
In 2016 you selected 0 d in rounds 1, 2, and 3. 3 picks, all forwards.

That's 10 forwards, 2d, 0 1st round d, in a 4 year span where you had all of your picks.

Compare that to TBL:

<a href="http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00008385.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00008385.html</a>

Compare that to WSH

<a href="http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00008871.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00008871.html</a>

Compare that to PITT

<a href="http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00007475.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00007475.html</a>

Compare that to STL

<a href="http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00008187.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00008187.html</a>

Compare that to (it doesnt ******* matter)

But go look at the teams that are actually rebuilding that will actually dominate: Philly, Anahiem, its like talking to a wall with you ******* morons.

The Shanaplan is literally garbage if you did not win a lottery.

Its a joke.

Without a lottery you have a rager in Kadri at 1C and literally no defense with some flimsy 1-way wingers. Its downs hockey. Its designed to make you think its going to work so you buy jerseys and pay more to go to a game. But its crap come playoffs, and will be crap come playoffs. Such a travesty really for what I consider the hockey capital of the world to be run by such dumbfucks and you all eat it up like its crack. If I had a dollar for every time Marner was literally run down on the boards and the puck went the other way I'd ******* retire today. Every team needs soft, creative scoring wingers, but you better have some semblance of defense behind them and Toronto has none.

You just type Shanaplan because you can score goals in the regular season. Meanwhile your 1RHD is nearly crying at exit interviews and your 1C needs to be coddled by the coach in the off season.

A plan is something you think about and do. This is just a way to extract your money.

Worst part for you? Somebody's going to get Nylander on the cheap, put him at center, and hes going to William Karlsson the league, and you will be stuck with an Adam Larsson = not a 1, but a good 2. And you'll have older Patrick Marleau moving up in the line-up. Seems like a winning "plan".

Good luck with that. Sorry about how much money they're extracting from you.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 31, 2018 at 11:57
Thread: True words
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 28, 2018 at 4:56
Thread: True words
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 28, 2018 at 2:01
Thread: True words
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Laynious</b></div><div>STL has "ALL-WORLD" Defence. - Haven't won a thing
TB has Hedman, McDonagh, Sergachev - Hasn't won a cup
Carolina has Hanifin, Slavvin, Faulk, Pesce - Can't make the post season
Winnipeg has Myers, Byfuglien, Trouba - Hasn't won a cup

etc etc

So Please explain to me in your "HAVE TO DRAFT D!!!!!!!!" psycho babble, are you even remotely correct? When drafting, it is about your team's philosophy. Best player or needs or wants. Leafs have Rielly, Gardiner (he's really good 95% of the time) Dermott is coming. So is Liljegren.

We'll be ok.</div></div>

Damn if only we could find the playoff results of the teams you’ve mentioned.

Or like, maybe if we just look at the number of D players (7) on the roster, the looked at the forwards (13), the had some way to determine the proportion of the team each accounted for....

And if we choose WAY less at one position, the other position is likely to suck.

And then when it sucks, maybe we could blame the drafting depth over the actual humans.

But when we don’t do that, we’re just making the few good things we have at that position super eager to GTFO.

If I were AM34 I couldn’t wait to get out of this shitshow. It’s a god damn circus where the lowest IQ reigns supreme.

Don’t draft defense, give up completely ridiculous goals against, then sit offensive players because defense sucks.

It’s like Down syndrome merry go round. Just make no sense but scream and it’s all ok.

That’s the plan in a nutshell.

And now your trusting this **** to a tool who thinks Drew Carey is his idol.

Enjoy the gutter.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 28, 2018 at 1:55
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 28, 2018 at 1:52
Thread: True words
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 28, 2018 at 1:38
Thread: True words
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Laynious</b></div><div>I'd have to disagree with you on that one. When they picked Marner they had no offensive threat in the pipeline (save for Nylander). Yes there are a lot of good D out of that 2015 draft and yes they could have had Werenski, Provorov or Hanifin, but consider that Rielly was 21 at the time and considered an elite D prospect. He still is. And how do you predict that you will drafting 1st overall the next year to get Matthews? You don't. So you make the best decisions you can at the time. Hindsight is always 20/20.

Leafs also just put up their FRANCHISE record in points for a season this year (not exactly losing). So I find your "rage rant" nothing more then what ever other non-leaf fan (or in your case not your favourite) does when the Leafs have a bit of success and that is to attempt to discredit without basis. Yes some Leaf fans are whacko (but please tell me of a fan base that doesn't have them) and the media is most definitely hard on them when they are losing. But the passion for this team is undeniable. The future of this franchise has never looked better and I for one am firmly behind the Shanaplan.</div></div>

Please look at the % of 1st or 2nd round picks that went D over the past decade. There’s a giant stretch in there that directly correlates to your current team.

Then compare that result to any successful franchise.

Leafs are sub 20%...teams like TBL, BOS, any many other power houses are at or above 40%.

You cannot win long term in this league without defense, and “the plan” has completely ignored it to the point t that fans are calling to trade the few defenseman of quality you have. They were exposed because Toronto does NOT have a viable top 4. You have two top 4 skaters in top 2 roles, and that is because you drafted nearly no D for a good 5-year span.

The “plan” sells tickets. Flashy offense is fun. Winning reg season is fun. You have no hope at competitive hockey with “the plan”. Should have drafted at least 2x the D in 1st and second rounds.

Google the draft results...

Your team has drafted the least % of D out of any team in a 7 year stretch in the first 2 rounds, yet so many fans want to lynch the D. Rofl.

But you have Marner and Matthews and Nylander and all are in the HOF and you won’t win **** like that. You don’t need to go D first but you need to go D somewhat.

The “plan” fucked your team.

You had a full rebuild, you won a lottery and rebuilt half of a team. Now you want opposition to send you quality players for your scraps. Ain’t ******* happening.

The “plan” is a literal “how to not win a cup” “plan” that only Iooks marginally decent because you won a lottery.

If you literally didn’t win a lottery you’d be the doorstep of your division. Plan is a colossal joke.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 28, 2018 at 12:57
Thread: True words
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 28, 2018 at 12:05