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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2022 at 1:04 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>We always pray the Islanders miss the playoffs and that 1st becomes a lottery pick? Kane should be able to score a 1st as well.

Now fast forward and lets say a bunch of these prospects works out (unlikely) but let's say 5 or 6. You have 5 or 6 NHL players drafted between 2022 and 2023 and what happens in 3 to 4 years when all of their ELCs expire in a 2 year window....ouch. That is also part of the problem with this strategy. Again, highly highly unlikely you end up with 5 or 6 top liners but if it were to happen, that salary cap is going to be very real again.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>Dude. No... we were all ready for a tear down and a tank. Its not about that. Its about the awful return for DeBrincat, practically giving him away, its about the questionable picks, its about giving up on Dach WAY too easy, its about letting TOR bend us over a barrel on Mrazek and then turning around and using their 25th overall pick to select a player that wouldve most likely been available at the end of the 2nd round. Bad choices all around today. Davidson went back on everything he said about "not forcing trades" and "picking the best available players" etc. We dont have to be completely miserable in order to tank next season. The best the draft odds get is around a 25% chance at the #1 overall pick. We don't have to be THIS bad. And we didnt have to take such a bad offer for Cat. There is no reason he couldnt have just waited if there wasnt a good offer at the draft. We essentially got Korchinski + 2nd + 3rd for Cat. That is not a good return no matter what way you look at it.</div></div>

Look, I'm optimistic, that's my view here. I admitted we could have gotten more for DeBrincat, but I'm more interested in a top 3 pick personally next year, because look at the teams that were successful this year in the playoffs. Avs: Landeskog (2nd overall, 2011), (McKinnon 1st, 2013), Makar (4th 2017); Lightning: Hedman (2nd overall, 2009), Stamkos (1st, 2008) ; Oilers Nuge (1st 2011), Draistl (3rd, 2014) , McDavid (1st, 2015). You need a couple really high picks if you're going to be successful. That's not a debate. Is DeBrincat the number 1 player on a cup team? No. Maybe an elite top line wing to one, sure, but prioritize center and build out. You need an elite center, which trading DeBrincat might help achieve. Again, if Alex Formenton was added to the trade, is that really going to be the final touch to help us win the cup in 7 years? No. This was the right path. As for Mrazek, give me a 1st rounder for a 2nd instead of some late 2nd round pick in 2024 and a C+ level prospect. Was the pick smart? Maybe maybe not. Pronmann expected the guy to go in the first. This is the right path. If you wish we half assed the rebuild then so be it, this is my take.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2022 at 12:48 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>The problem is, full tear downs and tanking more often then not doesn't work. The NHL simply has too much parity, this isn't basketball. Also going to be hard to be the worst team in the league, likely they end up picking in the top 5 next year, which is great, but look at Dach. Look at Strome. It's always a crap shoot and the odds are working against the Hawks.

They are also way more then 2 years away. Think 5 to 6 years away, if most things go right for them (again, slim chance), they can compete for a cup. Prospects are going to take 4 to 5 seasons post draft to show up big in the NHL, if they do. Korchinski is projected as a 2nd line d man; which we have too many prospects as it is. Literally, you trade a elite 24 year old for a shot (no promise) at a 2nd line d-man. That's just embarrassing.

It's okay to embrace the suck, but we need someone at the helm that can navigate it very carefully and Davidson just showed with that Cat trade he can't.</div></div>

I agree it's longer term, I just meant by the 2 year mark if we have some real nice prospects we don't have to try to be the worst team in the league but one of the worst still with a youth infusion occurring. As for the Davidson take, I agree he should have gotten more for the Cat, but we can't judge these guys until they start playing, what their ceiling is. I'm more optimistic about Nazar personally. Davidson is half a year in, and set the course we need. It is trickier than I stated, but I'm just happy there is a clear plan for once, not adding a third line european and hoping he'll solve our problems and make us maybe contend for the playoffs. If we get a top 3 pick next year or even Bedard, this is all worth it. If not, then it wasn't the smartest idea but there's a plan. Next year's pick will determine my position on all of this.
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