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Forum: NHL TradesDec 31, 2019 at 3:01
Thread: (CAR / BUF) - Pu and picks for Skinner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>He should've gotten the same value that Montreal did for Pacioretty. Carolina's stupidity almost screwed Bergevin, but he got the true value of Pacioretty. Buffalo got a steal for sure.</div></div>

The first year was good, worth 9M, played all 82, got 40 goals, only 63pts though - no playoffs either

Now this year at almost 1/2 way mark 11 Goals 19 pts and now he is injured, your lucky if that production worth 4M a year
And looking grim for the playoffs again this year and he is getting paid 10M real money the first 6years

The jury will be out for a good while yet on this deal, so far not the result Buff was looking for giving up 4 assests
and paying the guy 9m a year

Of course it's not looking great for Carolina either, Cliff Pu who was a 3rd round pick has already been dealt to Florida
for future consideration only and is in the ECHL, the 2nd rounder they got they took a KHL goalie who only played 6 games
last year and 6 so far this year, not particularly promising.
So Car still has Buf 3rd this coming draft and their 6th, but they already traded away the 6th, not sure for what or to who

We shall see, still pretty big advantage Buff at this point, but will decline quick unless he returns to form after this first half
Especially if he is wildly overpaid going forward, he's gonna be a 9m cap hit at 34 years old, it quite possible the last 4 years
of the 8 year deal, he'll be overpaid
Forum: NHL TradesAug 2, 2018 at 9:00
Thread: (CAR / BUF) - Pu and picks for Skinner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>seb</b></div><div>Ok, this trade makes Buffalo much better. First of all, why Carolina traded Skinner ? They will not make the playoffs once again because of an awful trade. They seemed to be getting better, and now it's bad all over again in Carolina. Trading a 200 goal scorer for three round pick and a prospect. Not the worst trade you can do, but the best thing was to stay put. Watch him have 30 goals with Jack Eichel. At least, Botterill is trading for good linemates for Eichel and Middlestadt. Great redemption Buffalo !!!</div></div>

All good comments seb and all true
Canes know him better than anyone, that says something ( although Waddell has made his share of bad deals )
He'll be asking for 7-8 m next year, assuming he follows up with a decent year as he is a ufa
And has had concussion issues
If he has a good year and resigns and a decent amount and his new contract is good value based on production ( Buff Wins the trade........for now )
And in 5 years we will decide again...... depending on the picks and Pu
Forum: NHL TradesAug 2, 2018 at 8:52
Thread: (CAR / BUF) - Pu and picks for Skinner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NateElder12</b></div><div>with three good forwards, average goaltending, and their best dman as a rookie? Idk if I'd say Skinner is going to push them into the playoffs. We'll see though. This looks more like setting up for the future rather than a "contend/win-now" move. They probably hope to get a 26-year-old winger locked up before he goes to market and they have to compete with the rest of the league for his services.</div></div>

Prior to this trade I had the Sabres moving out of the basement and more into an 11-13 team in the conf. If Skinner has a good year ( and it is his contract year )
Maybe an 8-9-10 team is possible. If Eichel is healthy all year, if he takes another step forward
If Dahlin is as good as projected and wins the Calder
Buff has 3 1st rounders next year
We're gonna be talking a lot more about Buffalo before too long
They are trending to be a playoff team in 1-3 years