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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2022 at 12:15 p.m.

Thread: Tweaking it

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mikearky</b></div><div>While agree Leafs not adding a 1st to dump Kerfoot, but so is trading Kerfoot to a team who just went out and sig ed several high profile free agents and thinking Wings giving up anything to acquire player they do not need</div></div>

Totally fair. I thought wings had some space and seemed to want legit NHLers now. But you can swap them out for another team then.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 15, 2022 at 9:31 p.m.

Thread: Tweaking it

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buffbry</b></div><div>Leafs add in 2023 first for the cap dump in kerfoot</div></div>

y'all dumb as hell

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 15, 2022 at 7:06 p.m.

Thread: Naz plz

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kster34</b></div><div>Why would Naz sign a haircut deal for 6 years :tearsofjoy ? That’ll take him to the end of his career. He could sign that same deal to play on better teams with better players :-/ Johnny hockey has had one really good year (which happened to be his contract year)</div></div>

I said no haters.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 15, 2022 at 3:12 p.m.

Thread: Eichel for Kakko plus not stupid I promise

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DahlinOlofsson94</b></div><div>Not enough value here sabres decline</div></div>

Do you think Tuch, Krebs, a 1st, and a 2nd are enough value? My package would've been a coup :)

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 15, 2022 at 3:10 p.m.

Thread: Naz plz

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>villenash</b></div><div>I’d probably take that deal as NSH</div></div>

The Nyquist cap dump? Yeah he can go anywhere, Hawks are an easy target since they're clearly tanking, but Nashville can have him too of course.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 15, 2022 at 2:01 p.m.

Thread: spooky spooky devils

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Book_Hockey</b></div><div>https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2022/06/29/jonas-siegenthaler-named-best-defensive-defenseman-of-2021-22-season/

“Two respected hockey statisticians, Andy & Rono, revealed their lists of the top 10 offensive and defensive defensemen in the NHL. The creators of the popular NHL player stat cards named former Capital Jonas Siegenthaler as the NHL’s best defensive defenseman of the 2021-22 season.“

Can’t seem to find Muzzin on the list…</div></div>

Andy and Rono repackage other people's work. They aren't statisticians. Look at a card: it says data derived from natural stat trick, puck iq, and Corey Sznajder. Nst isn't advanced stats. Puck iq is some closed source bs that says "qoc matters more than you think". Corey tracks zone entries and exits but doesn't actually do advanced stats.

I could write a ****ty blog post that regards Muzzin as the best defenseman in the world, doesn't mean it's worth listening to. Citing these guys is akin to citing uncle Bob's drunken thanksgiving rants.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 15, 2022 at 12:44 p.m.

Thread: spooky spooky devils

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Book_Hockey</b></div><div>Never assumed nobody know the devils except for me, just assumed you two Leaf fans didn’t. Agree to disagree on Muzzins value, he was average to below average last season in everything you stated he’s elite at, while Siegenthaler was regarded as the best defensive defenseman in hockey and Graves was above average in all aspects. I don’t believe he’ll bounce back from injury and become the same guy he was in LA given his age.</div></div>

"Siegenthaler was regarded as the best defensive defenseman in hockey"

OK then

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 14, 2022 at 10:20 p.m.

Thread: fitting in ZAR without any trades

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoreHitzSeider</b></div><div>Oh that's a great way to treat a player. Class all the way. He'll likely sign the offer sheet and tell Kyle to go F himself.</div></div>

It's the way most RFAs are treated lmao relax buddy.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 14, 2022 at 10:09 p.m.

Thread: fitting in ZAR without any trades

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoreHitzSeider</b></div><div>Why would Sandin sign for 800k? 🤭</div></div>

Because he doesn't have arbitration rights. Dermott signed for 874k. Sandin has no leverage. If there's an offer sheet coming, great, let's see it. But there isn't. So he can sit or sign.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 14, 2022 at 6:40 p.m.

Thread: spooky spooky devils

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Book_Hockey</b></div><div>Oh yeah? Over who? He’s not better than Graves or Siegenthaler who play the same position. I’m assuming you’ve never watched either play, or even looked at their underlying numbers. You just assumed they stink because they played on a bad team</div></div>

Do you know anything about Muzzin? Lmao. He's easily better than those two, the only question is health. If he is healthy he is a shutdown, physical defenseman with sneaky good offensive instincts. He hits, he shoots, he clears the front of the net, and he plays smart hockey. You don't have to assume nobody knows anything about the Devils except for you. Those guys are fine players. Decent, nothing wrong with them. But Muzzin is better. He's just older and not quite worth his cap hit to the Leafs given his injuries. If he can stay healthy (not a far fetched idea), he will be solid.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 14, 2022 at 10:52 a.m.

Thread: spooky spooky devils

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Book_Hockey</b></div><div>No need for Muzzin, he wouldn’t be a top 4 guy with Graves and Siegenthaler there. Not paying a bottom pair d man 5+ mil. If he had one year left, I’d be inclined to accept</div></div>

What's wrong with depth and not relying on young guys too much?

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 14, 2022 at 10:23 a.m.

Thread: spooky spooky devils

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Logan_Ollivier</b></div><div>A top 4 defenceman (how you are using Muzzin) does not cost the team who holds him anything to move.</div></div>

given leafs could use some cap space, i erred on the side of not overpaying and having devils fans tell me "why would we give up a 2nd for an aging, injured guy who costs a lot"

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 14, 2022 at 10:19 a.m.

Thread: big ufa players

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>I would accept that offer as the Anaheim GM, but I really wouldn't expect Calgary to make it. In fact, I'd make sure that I wasn't being pranked by Ashton Kutcher before accepting it.</div></div>

"adjust picks however you see fit"

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2022 at 10:34 p.m.

Thread: Get the real star from Calgary

"whatever it takes"

Doesn't include a 1st

Ok then

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 12, 2022 at 10:56 p.m.

Thread: Tandemo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Thanks. But just FYI, I don't think Kerfoot is anything close to garbage* -- some contending team is going to want him at the trade deadline like Barclay Goodrow or Artturi Lehkonen or Brandon Hagel.

* I know darn well you were being jocular.</div></div>

Nah you're totally right, I just want to clear his cap hit and I don't want to get into an argument over whether he'd return a 2nd from this team or a 3rd from that team. I'm just like, look, he's gone, we have the room to do these things. Insert draft picks here.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 12, 2022 at 11:27 a.m.

Thread: Tandemo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Assume that you mean "Any team, any return" because we have less than $1.5 million in cap space after re-signing Grundstrom, Anderson and Durzi and bringing in a seventh defenseman.</div></div>

Haha yeah basically. Just picked a random team. Don't mean to dump garbage on the Kings.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 16, 2022 at 5:01 p.m.

Thread: Trading with the Ducks to solve all the problems

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Logan_Ollivier</b></div><div>No it can't be worse than Ritchie. But it can and would be, much much worse than Marner.</div></div>

Yes, obviously. But the current setup is like a 10/10 line, a 6, a 8 (with minimal offense), and a 4. My proposed lines (granted, after trade additions) are a 9 (any line with Matthews is at least a 8), a 8 or 9, a 6 or 7, and a 8 (defensively).

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 16, 2022 at 2:34 p.m.

Thread: Trading with the Ducks to solve all the problems

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Logan_Ollivier</b></div><div>Comtois and his 3 goals is definitely better next to Matthews than Marner. Geez</div></div>

Do you trust a third line against Matthews even without Marner? I'd think not. Pick a shift at random from the past two months and it'll show Matthews on an absolute mission, constantly hounding the puck and creating offense.

Comtois isn't amazing but he'll hit and muck about and get elevated by Matthews. He just needs to stand near the net and shove some guys. Can't be worse than Ritchie, right?

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 16, 2022 at 2:15 p.m.

Thread: Trading with the Ducks to solve all the problems

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nhl_oilers</b></div><div>Arizona could use a goalie to tandem with Vejmelka.. I would send him there.</div></div>

OK done

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 16, 2022 at 2:06 p.m.

Thread: Trading with the Ducks to solve all the problems

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nhl_oilers</b></div><div>No thanks.. rather not get Mrazek.</div></div>

Send Mrazek to whatever team you want, honestly, it's the most minor part of this post.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 14, 2022 at 9:09 p.m.

Thread: Ducks are my best friend

Ahh I see the anti Leafs brigade is out in full force. None of these ducks assets are in their prime, the time to get full good value on them was two years ago. Niemela alone is worth more than Lindholm and Rakell. But I'm sure Verbeek will somehow get a better deal than this.

Besides, did I not say increase the cost however you like? Reading is hard.

The salary retention point is fair, pretend it goes through a third team that's paid a 4th to save 2M on Rakell.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 1, 2022 at 11:59 a.m.

Thread: Fixed bottom nine plus added Chychrun

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Letter_Kenny</b></div><div>I just can't see Florida trading Lundell or Knight. The Chychrun trade is a draft Day trade in my opinion.</div></div>

No, I don't see them going for it either, I just mention it to compare the value of what's requested by Arizona and what I'm offering. Niemela is a step down and Robertson another step down, so throw in Abruzzese and a 3rd to make up the value.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 1, 2022 at 11:24 a.m.

Thread: Fixed bottom nine plus added Chychrun

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Letter_Kenny</b></div><div>That's a realistic offer for Chychrun. I don't know if Arizona takes it. But it's nice to see a Leafs fan understanding value.</div></div>

I'd love to acquire him for a song but I know he's good. This kind of excludes us from making another big trade for JT Miller, for example, as we'd be giving up all of our top prospects. Giving up half of them is acceptable. We still have Amirov (please get well buddy) and Knies, as well as Sandin and Liljegren. Plus who needs Niemela when Chychrun is there? Given the rumoured asking price from Florida of Lundell, Knight, and a 1st, I assume this is comparable.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 1, 2022 at 11:22 a.m.

Thread: Fixed bottom nine plus added Chychrun

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NoVaSpartan</b></div><div>Good offer on Chyc, but what happens in the off-season? Toronto would be millions over the cap with Muzzin back without Campbell or your RFAs signed.</div></div>

Who cares about the offseason after a cup win hahaha. That's future Dubas's problem. We need success asap.

Maybe Muzzin never plays again due to back to back concussions and other injuries piling up (back to back playoffs getting hurt, looking hurt all of this year, etc). Maybe he's on ltir and sent to Arizona to hit the cap floor until his contract is done. Idk.

If he's healthy in the offseason, Chychrun can move to the right and give us a great top four, and we can move Kerfoot and Mrazek out.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 1, 2022 at 11:20 a.m.

Thread: Fixed bottom nine plus added Chychrun

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmurrayt</b></div><div>You cannot trade the 2023 third round pick.</div></div>

Oops, you're right, that's part of the Lyubushkin trade. I thought capfriendly would show me a * beside it! Anyway it's the smallest piece of the trade.

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