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Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 12, 2021 at 5:56 p.m.

Thread: The New-Look Defense

I think this is one of those very underrated Don Waddell moves.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 12, 2021 at 5:14 p.m.

Thread: Hakanpaa

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>nbass</b></div><div>trade works for both sides, getting something they want. canes also get added protection for the expansion draft. i like it a lot</div></div>

I don't get why people, especially canes fans, feel so strongly about ANA winning this. Fleury has had his ice time trending way down since the bubble (averaged 17+ min in his 20 games leading up to their exit from the bubble, only 12 min in his last 20 games), hasn't really been an impact on the ice this year, gets flipped for a guy who by analytics numbers is good defensively (admittedly not all that familiar with the guy) and physical which will be needed for a deep playoff run. Plus they get a throw at the dartboard on top of that. Think this is a good trade for both teams TBH.

Only way you can really fault Carolina at this deadline is if they know TT isn't coming back and they didn't make a move for top 6 forward talent.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 8, 2021 at 3:05 p.m.

Thread: Absolute blockbuster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Richard88</b></div><div>I mean $3.4m caphit isn't nothing, especially if your team desperately wants to move him to accomodate other moves. Chances are that selling teams won't be too keen on paying up for a rental either.</div></div>

Canes have $10M+ in deadline cap space (per capfriendly) so they're definitely not desperate to move him for cap reasons.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31, 2021 at 7:04 p.m.

Thread: realistic deadline if freddys injury is worse

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AustonMatthews3443</b></div><div>Not enough for either. Carolina doesn't give up a Reimer for a guy who will likely be a career AHLer and a 5th. Plus I'm sure Chicago could get a better return for Janmark.</div></div>

They might bite on one of the NHL RHD on the Leafs but I feel like there's not really a deal that would make sense for both teams. Leafs and Canes just aren't good trading partners at the moment.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31, 2021 at 6:40 p.m.

Thread: realistic deadline if freddys injury is worse

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>So why does Carolina give up their goalie for really nothing?</div></div>

They don't

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 10, 2021 at 3:44 p.m.

Thread: Helping another teams cup odds and its bottom line for this season

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>You say that Paquette provides a feel for the game to the entire team when actually, the team finds it irrelevant and relegates him to 7 minutes a game.

That feel for the game will be irrelevant once the playoffs come around because Paquette will be a healthy scratch by then.

And he'll walk in free agency and you overlook it, so there's that.</div></div>

No, I said the fourth line is played when RBA "feels" he needs some physicality or a spark.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 10, 2021 at 3:19 p.m.

Thread: Helping another teams cup odds and its bottom line for this season

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>Your logic is flawed for grossly overvaluing Paquette when in all likelihood, he will be a healthy scratch for the entire playoffs.

Good luck to you then :/</div></div>

Show me where I overvalued him? Just saying the canes had specific intent to get Paquette, if they wanted Paul instead they would have made a trade for him.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 10, 2021 at 3:12 p.m.

Thread: Helping another teams cup odds and its bottom line for this season

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>Because Paul is the better player and Ottawa would tell them to go fleece someone else?</div></div>

If the difference between Paquette & Paul is only 5-10 draft spots, the canes could have just swapped Paul & Paquette in the original trade and included a late round pick to make up for that. Your logic is flawed.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 10, 2021 at 3:02 p.m.

Thread: Helping another teams cup odds and its bottom line for this season

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>If he's fitting in, why would Paquette be playing only 6-7 minutes a night?

If he's playing only 6-7 minutes a night in the regular season, he'll be a healthy scratch during the playoffs.

Guaranteed.

Carolina does this for the reasons that I mentioned in the description to this post.

I hoped you at least read them before commenting :)</div></div>

Paquette plays just as much as the rest of the canes 4th line (with the exception of Martinook who kills penalties). When there's three lines that can score & play well defensively the fourth line becomes a "feel for the game" type line rather than a line that sees regular playing time.

Also, if Carolina wanted Paul over Paquette, why wouldn't they have just made that trade to begin with?

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 31, 2021 at 5:56 p.m.

Thread: Offseason Retool

Why does Carolina do this?

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 26, 2021 at 5:07 p.m.

Thread: COVID Lines

They better hope the guys clear protocol soon, this is a tough lineup to put on the ice against Tampa & Dallas

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22, 2021 at 3:06 p.m.

Thread: Canes Should Stay Far Away from PLD and Get Laine Instead

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockyluv21</b></div><div>Or, alternatively, they sign-and-trade Hamilton at the trade deadline, likely to the Ducks, as a separate move if the extension talks lead to Erik Karlsson money or something nearly as insane.</div></div>

Good point, assuming the return on Hamilton from Anaheim is Gibson (plus pieces on either side to balance)?

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22, 2021 at 1:34 p.m.

Thread: Canes Should Stay Far Away from PLD and Get Laine Instead

100% agree need to keep away from PLD. Although I'm not sure the Canes do this trade unless someone like Nino/Gardiner are going back for cap reasons (which WPG probably wouldnt take). Would make their cap situation difficult next year assuming they sign Laine, Svech, Hamilton to deals totaling $20M-ish, that leaves only $10M to sign 2 goalies, 1 D, 4 forwards. Think the value on the trade is fair, just handcuffs the canes from a cap perspective.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 14, 2020 at 4:53 p.m.

Thread: Part 1 of a youth movement

Carolina doesn't have the cap space to make this trade & then sign Svech/Hamilton. As it stands now (without any scratches/taxi squad cap hit) they're about $2M under the cap and probably wouldn't be able to take on the increased salary this year. Even if the cap hit worked, don't think Carolina gives up this much for Couture.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 3, 2020 at 12:00 p.m.

Thread: Moves

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Mantha's not available, And that doesn't get him. Canes need to resign Hamilton and Svechnikov the last person they can afford is Mantha. And Mantha will get more then what you're offering.</div></div>

Looks like that Mantha contract was pretty spot on, huh?

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 3, 2020 at 11:08 a.m.

Thread: Moves

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oliwer_smashki</b></div><div>Yes we do, and you're getting two of our good prospects AND a first. Both those guys have serious upside. Plus, Nino is not exactly a castaway, he can still produce. I'm not saying I like this trade necessarily from a Canes perspective (it puts us in too much of a cap crunch) but don't think this is as bad of a package as you think</div></div>

100% agree it puts them in cap crunch, mostly just messing around with this & seeing "what if". Some people take this way too seriously lol.

$28M available to sign 11 players is not a good spot to be, especially when 2 of those 11 probably eat $15-$20M. Seems like they'd be in a similar spot to TB this year.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 3, 2020 at 11:05 a.m.

Thread: Moves

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BStinson</b></div><div>A late first round pick, a fourth rounder prospect (Nybeck), Bokk (b prospect), and Nino is an offer I’d turn down. If you don’t want to start off with a younger more premier player like Necas or Jarvis then it really doesn’t entice me too much. Detroit will need veteran guys to help the young wingers we already have coming the next couple years (Zadina, Raymond, Berggren, etc)</div></div>

If I'm the canes I move Jarvis way before Necas. So does a trade like this look more like Jarvis, Bokk, 1st, Niederreiter?

Forum: Tampa Bay LightningOct. 30, 2020 at 12:44 p.m.

Thread: Cernak Value

What's the return that TBL looks for in trading Cernak's rights?

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 22, 2020 at 6:16 p.m.

Thread: Thoughts

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kotkaniemi15</b></div><div>Not even close for Kuemper. You can’t just add a 2nd to a backup and expect to get a top 5 goalie in the NHL.</div></div>
Thought I had added Bokk in, not entirely sure what happened there. He could be interchanged with a few different prospects if needed.

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