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Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1 at 2:04 p.m.
Thread: Lou has awaken
-Palmieri has a full NTC and I can't imagine him waiving to move 3,000 miles away when he's literally playing for his hometown team, and just had a kid on the Island.

-Both sides say no. If Colorado is moving Girard, they're doing it to create cap space - and this trade at best is cap-neutral for them. 3C isn't really a need for them either so Pageau isn't a guy I see them targeting. On the Islanders side, it's too much to pay for Girard - he's a fine player, but giving up your best defensive center and a 2nd rounder is more than I'd want to spend to turn Romanov-Salo at LD2-3 into Girard-Romanov.

-Sharks don't have the cap space to go from Reimer ($2.25M) to Varlamov ($5M), and that's before you get to the idea that they most likely want to move one of their 3 goalies without getting another back. Even beyond the cap and roster logistics issues, pretty much every move San Jose has made this summer screams "we don't plan on contending this year" and teams in that position typically don't sacrifice picks to make small upgrades in goal.

Lastly, I can't picture Kadri signing for $7M AAV and playing 3C. If they're paying him that much, they're going to find a way to mess up their top 6 by playing Barzal or Nelson on the wing with Nazem Kadri's Decline Years at 1C/2C.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 30 at 9:40 a.m.
Thread: a new era
Isles easily pass on that one. Korpisalo isn't really an asset I would be super interested in - he's had a SV% over .900 -once- in the past 5 seasons. I'd rather roll the dice with Ken Appleby or Jakub Skarek as the backup than treat him as a positive asset in this trade. Blankenberg is an undrafted guy who might have some potential, but to me it's hard to call him a strong prospect until I see him produce outside of that insanely good Michigan team this year. Chinhakov looks like he might turn into a decent player, but he's always going to have less value than Raty for the simple reason that he's a winger and Raty's a center. I just don't think there's enough here for the Isles to retain $2.5M on their backup goalie *and* trade their best prospect.

As far as the Devils trade, the pendulum swings wayyy back the other way in this being an insane overpayment by the Jackets. I understand you need to move the cap to run a 23 man roster, but I think you can find it somewhere else that doesn't involve trading such an integral part of the team as Jenner.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 29 at 10:34 p.m.
Thread: Getting Some BC Boys Back
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ottawa67s</b></div><div>This is a ridiculous amount of delusional comments in one place. I’m amazed at what I started</div></div>

Islanders fans tend to get a bit territorial around their star forwards' hometown teams talking about "bringing him home", it was this whole thing a few years ago, not worth going over again.

Personally, I don't hate the value in this deal but I don't like the idea of trading out a legitimate 1C without getting something that fills a need in return. Garland is good but he's not a top line guy - he's a solid 2nd line play driver with a commensurate cap hit at this point. Podkolzin and Lekkerimaki look like very strong prospects (Podkolzin looked good this year) but again: two more wingers. There's no one on the Islanders ready to step up and take over Barzal's 1C spot in 23-24 unless Raty takes a huge leap, so this is basically adding a ton of middle-6 wingers (a couple with top 6 potential) and turning the Islanders into a team with no top line, three 2nd lines, and presumably Matt Martin, Casey Cizikas, and Cal Clutterbuck on the 4th line until the heat death of the universe. Not exactly the roster I'd want to have after moving out my bonafide 1C.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 29 at 10:23 p.m.
Thread: Who says no
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy739</b></div><div>Im trying to drive step 1/2 in to his skull given how very different Jarvis and Caufields last 12-13 months has been
Then we go back to him coming into a dead team sparking a top line and finishing top 3 team scoring in a SCF
When people dont listen you have to drive the point home over and over


I keep seeing these people overvaluing complete trash while trying to give away legit talent on this site.
Trying to tell me Jarvis = Caufield will provoke a rebate 10/10 just like me saying Suzuki = Matthews would and should</div></div>

From pure production standpoint: Caufield has 48 points in 77 regular season GP at this point in his career. Jarvis had 40 points in 67 GP this season. In a vacuum, I'd pick Caufield over Jarvis too, but the value is a lot closer between those two guys than between Suzuki &amp; Matthews. I think it comes down to personal preference in playstyle - Jarvis is a playmaker, Caufield is a finisher. But if I woke up tomorrow and saw there was a trade package based around Caufield for Jarvis, I wouldn't look at it as "oh man one side got FLEECED".

But, I think it was said elsewhere in this thread, no GM in their right mind would make this trade to begin with. Trading 1st round picks after each of them has basically a rookie season's worth of games under their belt is tying your entire career's fortune to that guy you're trading for - if he becomes a star, you're a genius! But if the guy you traded away becomes a better player? Hooo boy, pack your bags buddy, you're outta here.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 29 at 8:23 p.m.
Thread: Justin Holl clears waivers at the start of the season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>that's just it though. Holl may be unsexy as you say, but he certainly isnt over paid or best suited to the bottom pair. He's a middle as middle can be defender that is pretty much what every team but half a dozen max have on their 2nd pair. He isnt spectacular at anything but he's solid defensively, can put up points if used as such and reasonably versatile. He got all the blame when Muzzin was hurt and recovering for being the bad one on the pair despite putting up the better numbers.
The funniest thing is that if he threw a big body check or crosschecked guys more (and took more penalties) everyone who hates him would think he was amazing without him changing any other aspect of his game</div></div>

I think I leaned third pair for him because he reminds me a lot of Scott Mayfield on the Isles - both bigger dudes (6'4", 211 for Holl and 6'5", 220 for Mayfield) that are somewhat physical (each gets credit for about 1-1.5 hits per game) but not a crazy Kronwall-type hitter. Mayfield is another guy who's probably better than half the league's RD2s but is RD3 on the Isles behind Pulock &amp; Dobson - but that's the kind of depth a contender is going to *want*. If you can have a second pair guy on the third pair because you're top 4 is that good? You've got playoff aspirations, baby, and someone's gonna give up an okay asset for Holl because of that.

The only thing I think that can depress his value is if GMs really start smelling blood in the water over the Leafs' cap situation - that's why Kerfoot probably gets moved (they're $1.5M over right now, trading Kerfoot clears $3.5M with 13 forwards signed, then sign Sandin for under $2M and call it a day) (maybe find a better minimum contract guy than Kyle Clifford or Joey Anderson tho)
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 29 at 8:11 p.m.
Thread: Monahan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>33pts as a rookie playing on the 3rd line. It wouldn’t be unrealistic to expect a jump just from year 1 to 2. Throw in playing with high end wingers like Landeskog and Lehkonen and regular PP2 minutes it’s not that big of a leap to think he scores 50pts, and I mean 50pts is 50pts but 50pts on an elc is special. And think about it this way Newhook at last years rate scores ONE more point every five games that’s 50. Personally I think he has 70pt potential but that’s just me.</div></div>

If I'm an Avs fan, I don't *hate* the idea of getting a veteran (like a healthy Sean Monahan) as a backup plan for 2C in case Newhook needs a little more sheltering while he develops.

I also honestly don't know enough about the depth chart there - would Compher and Helm be 3C and 4C if Newhook slid up to 2C? Because I'm not the hugest fan of that bottom 6 if that's the case.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 29 at 8:07 p.m.
Thread: Justin Holl clears waivers at the start of the season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>amazing how every other teams decent 2nd pairing RHD are worth their weight in gold, yet Holl is waiver fodder. Hilarious.</div></div>

Holl gets dinged a lot because he's literally the un-sexiest asset I could imagine in the league - a guy best suited for the bottom pair, probably paid a little bit too much at $2M, on the wrong side of 30, just nothing really attractive about him. I think some of his undervaluing comes from the fact that every Maple Leafs ACGM has him going out the door ("if he's so great why are you always trying to move him?"), but to act like he's a cap dump at $2M is just silly. He's fine. He's worth a 4th rounder for a team that wants to have a more reliable RD3.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 29 at 1:47 p.m.
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