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Armchair-GM
Jul. 29, 2023 at 3:43 a.m.
Thread:
EK with DET and CHI
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Snowhawk18</b></div><div>If the $2m retention is for the 4 seasons remaining on Karlsson’s deal ($8m in total) then it is not an overpay and honestly I don’t think the Hawks would be willing to tie up one of their three retention spots unless it returned a 1st round pick.</div></div>
You’re correct, I neglected to consider the term.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 26, 2023 at 10:25 p.m.
Thread:
Keep Granlund
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HulkVader</b></div><div>No.</div></div>
Yes.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 25, 2023 at 5:44 p.m.
Thread:
Fitting in EK
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoSeider53</b></div><div>Detroit gets out 1 year earlier, Chiarot has 3 years left to Petry's 2 years left.</div></div>
That one year is huge for me. Petry isn't going to move the needle at all but he's reliable enough. He can play RD for the next 2 seasons while ASP has one more year in the SHL and then a year in GR to develop. ASP will likely be ready to occupy that RD roster spot at the exact time Petry's contract ends. it would save Detroit from having to buy out the final year of Chiarots contract when Edvinsson, Wallinder, Johansson, ASP are all up with the big club and need a roster spot. Chiarots is a lefty and can play RD in the meantime but Petry would be more ideal with that right shot.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 25, 2023 at 3:40 p.m.
Thread:
Fitting in EK
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>datools</b></div><div>Thanks! Thought it was 4</div></div>
He did sign for 4 years, And we're already one year down.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 25, 2023 at 3:13 p.m.
Thread:
Fitting in EK
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>datools</b></div><div>My thoughts too, Detroit gets out of it 2 years earlier and balances the RHD/LHD.</div></div>
Detroit gets out 1 year earlier, Chiarot has 3 years left to Petry's 2 years left.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 25, 2023 at 2:06 p.m.
Thread:
Fitting in EK
im extremely conflicted with this trade but I think it is a good one, maybe not another LD prospect, and I dont like taking on chairot because of the term but 2 firsts and only 3.5 retention is decent
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 25, 2023 at 2:04 p.m.
Thread:
Fitting in EK
Honestly, this is the first Petry to Detroit trade I've seen that actually makes sense for Detroit. Even with the higher cap hit, it's worth it for Detroit because of the one year less term. Detroit can absorb the extra cap hit this season and next. Petry and Chairot bring a similar game but Petry being a right shot is more attractive.
Red Wings accept.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 20, 2023 at 9:28 p.m.
Thread:
Would CGY do this to dump Coleman to a team he might waive to
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>datools</b></div><div>Just seems slightly overpaid and locked up till ?36?</div></div>
Well he's been great and was pne of the Flames best players last year so no he's not a cap dump
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 20, 2023 at 8:49 p.m.
Thread:
Would CGY do this to dump Coleman to a team he might waive to
No cgy would not
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 20, 2023 at 12:11 p.m.
Thread:
Pens fan begging you to defunk our funk please
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>datools</b></div><div>I think Petry to Pesce is an upgrade and it saves them 3.125 next season. But you're right that's a big pay for little savings and a slight upgrade. I think moving Carter to make sure Sullivan can't dress him is a win though haha.
I think another coach would know to scratch him unless you have injuries in which cases he's fine playing 30-50 games throughout the year</div></div>
I guess it depends what type of defenseman you want. Pesce is obviously better defensively but Petry brings a little more offense and physicality. Maybe a slight upgrade. I can see both sides. It sort of saves them 3.125 next year, yes, but you also need to find another 2nd pair RHD next year then for under 3.125mil in order for them to actually be saving money. I think if no retention it would go a long way to making the addition of a 1st and Smith worth it - but I'm sure the Canes wouldn't like it then. I like the creativity though - not another Karlsson trade haha
Yeah - fair enough on Carter haha. I hope now that the Pens have 126 bottom 6 forwards that Carter will be scratched. Honestly he didn't do THAT bad on the 4th line at then end of last season.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 20, 2023 at 12:00 p.m.
Thread:
Caniacs can we talk for a minute
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>datools</b></div><div>Sorry I didn't have the Petry retention, not sure why you say he'd be on the 3rd pairing, he's definitely still a top 4 guy, just not the #2 Pens we're hoping he'd be/he's paid to be at 6.25</div></div>
Was talking about Smith. He’s looking more and more like a bust and I think best case he becomes a sheltered third pairing guy who can pitch in a bit offensively.
With retention Petry is fine but I’d still have pesce for one year than him retained at 2 when looking at the rest of the package. Only reason to move on from pesce is to get a younger cost controlled D or an upgrade. This offer doesn’t meet either.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 20, 2023 at 11:56 a.m.
Thread:
Pens fan begging you to defunk our funk please
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>datools</b></div><div>The less than 1 million difference if whether or not Smith/Joseph is on the roster this year or just next season to replace Skjei
Woops for sure a mistake on that other ACGM team, fixed now. Still works without a Granlund buyout (just no UFA addition unless you buy him out). I also once thought it was unlikely but his buyout is actually a really easy one to swallow</div></div>
In terms of cap I was looking at it from the Pens side of things - not Canes.
All good lol. Yeah with no UFAs and a Desmith dump it does look like it would work with no buyout. Even though it works, is it actually a good trade for the Pens though? Basically Pesce in for Petry and you're losing a 1st and Smith? Not so sure.
Oh his buyout is definitely easy to swallow. I just said chances are slim because Dubas made it known that he doesn't want to buy anyone out. Doesn't mean it's impossible, just improbable.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 20, 2023 at 12:05 a.m.
Thread:
Pens fan begging you to defunk our funk please
While this is obviously a terrible deal for Carolina, the difference between Petry and Pesce wasn't as astronomical as it is being made out to be by CAR fans. Petry got significantly harder deployment while out producing Pesce at 5v5. Removing AHL caliber Dumoulin from his TOI sample and he was very sound.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 18, 2023 at 7:20 p.m.
Thread:
3 way
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>datools</b></div><div>Karlsson can't be moved without both taking back a bad contract and retaining on him. Without retention and a bad deal coming back his worth doesn't exist because no team can take on 11.5 and to add to that he can't be dumped because of his NMC. Your costing on dead cap is correct, but future dead cap does not cost the same because the cap is going up dramatically.
So SJS retains 3.5 per year for 4 with the relative cost going down every year
The bad deal the take back can be flipped so it's not even that back at 3.1 per year for 2 years
All of that is worth Joseph, a 1st, a 2nd and Blomqvist
The flip is the challenge so you add Barabanov take on another dump in Murray (almost no cost this year and only 2 mill next year) and you get Nylander who you can flip at the deadline. Pens sweeten the Toronto pot with a 2nd</div></div>
If Toronto does decide to trade Willy, it can't be in a deal like this. Having to add Murray and ask for retention on a contract coming back takes away from his overall value. They shouldn't be moving him at this point anyway.
Best to just move Murray in a separate deal involving picks.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 18, 2023 at 4:31 p.m.
Thread:
3 way
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>datools</b></div><div>Yeah I think you're right about the Canadian teams, though not sure why SJS would be opposed to retaining on both if it allows them to trade Karlsson & also get Nylander. They have more than enough space to do so</div></div>
San Jose is in the midst of a massive rebuild, I'd be totally shocked if William Nylander doesn't have them on his 10 team no trade list.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 18, 2023 at 4:14 p.m.
Thread:
3 way
Petry wont go to Canada.
Also, I think TOR can get a better return for Nylander.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 18, 2023 at 4:10 p.m.
Thread:
3 way
Maybe that’s enough for Karlsson…but for eating $15m over next two years…needs to be something more to San Jose.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 18, 2023 at 4:09 p.m.
Thread:
3 way
Think you have to add the 1st going back to Toronto as well.
Sharks still accept IMO
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 17, 2023 at 12:06 a.m.
Thread:
3 way with Pens - Bouchard and dumps for Karlsson retained
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gmonwy</b></div><div>If I am the oilers I would rather have Bouchard over Karlsson</div></div>
Any GM should want Bouchard over Karlsson. Which is why this is an insane proposal.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 16, 2023 at 11:59 p.m.
Thread:
3 way with Pens - Bouchard and dumps for Karlsson retained
If I am the oilers I would rather have Bouchard over Karlsson
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 16, 2023 at 3:54 p.m.
Thread:
Avs fans are all kinds of funny
I mean, the last guy that was a ‘god in the BCHL’ the Avs drafted didn’t turn out so well.
Kings pass. Trading an area of weakness in Kaliyev for an area of strength in Mailloux.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 16, 2023 at 2:06 p.m.
Thread:
Final Roster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>datools</b></div><div>Ruhwedel is fine as a starter in my opinion but you're 1 injury away from depending on him for top 4 minutes which is problematic. Can Carter be started in the minors for relief? I'd keep Rutta if possible
Actually cut the Suter+Foote signings and you'll be fine</div></div>
Carter has a NMC so he can't be sent down.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 15, 2023 at 2:06 p.m.
Thread:
depth
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>datools</b></div><div>I think Granlund is on the 3rd, I know it was a rough transition last year but he still scored 40 pts and had 60+ the year before that. With an off-season to learn the system I don't see why he can't deliver a defensively solid 40 point season. There are so many bottom 6 options I'm sure he can develop some chemistry</div></div>
This isn’t necessarily lines just positional depth. I know Granlund plays RW too but I kept him in the C spot. Team has stated that they view Eller as the 3C hence why he’s above Granlund
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 14, 2023 at 8:49 a.m.
Thread:
Moving Petry to Minnesota to make room for EK
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>datools</b></div><div>Can you better help me understand Minnesota's cap situation?
Let's set aside that Goligoski won't waive for ARZ - you're right (creating a fantasy where he enjoyed playing there and doesn't mind going back and playing a bigger role)
Minnesota has 8 mill left and needs to sign: Addison, Duhaime & Gustavson + another starting forward (Rossi?)
Upgrade RHD (trying to replace Dumba) by removing Goligoski & adding Petry & 4.25M = net 2.25
Can Addison sign a 2 yr deal and expire RFA? (2x3m?)
What does a Gustavson deal look like (???)
Duhaime 800k?
Rossi 800k
7.2/8.2 and no Gustavson signing yet so I guess that's the issue right?
Is it too early to dump Fleury? Can Fleury be dumped? Back to Chicago for free assuming they deadline flip him at 50%?The you get 4.5</div></div>
Fleury has a full NMC and has gone on record as saying he's only playing in Minnesota this year.
Aside from that, this ACGM probably paints the picture of what Minnesota is dealing with: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4436056
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 14, 2023 at 4:14 a.m.
Thread:
Exploring cap space
Boy was I not shocked to find out you’re not a Wild fan.
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