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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 12, 2021 at 4:11 p.m.
Thread: Offseason Plans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yztnuK</b></div><div>Vancouver cant afford a pick with Holtby
or a Pick for Reinhart
or Reinharts $6m even thou his points per game is indictiive $8M plus

Vancouver isnt going for the play the kids, like OJ. Resigning Edler forces OJ or Rathbone to sit. LHD is QH, OJ, JR.

Miller is vocal on wanting to play centre, days on EP is numbered. Vancouvers 3 centers will be EP-Miller-Horvat.

Beagle is skating again and Ferland hasnt medically retired, so he could come back.

Based on Goalies avaible via UFA and at least half dozen better options in expansion, Seattle doesnt wat Holtby</div></div>

What other choice do they have? How are they going to get better? Draft someone in the second round and hope they pan out? NHL teams have a 25% chance of drafting an NHL quality player in the second round, why can't you afford to give up a second to ensure you have cap space to acquire a player like Reinhart, or sign a UFA C or LD. The current state of the Canucks isn't going to get it done, so something has to give.
Reinhart could make more money on a deal with Buffalo, but they haven't felt the need to give it to him yet, what makes you think he will get more? It's hard to find a comparable, but i don't see a situation where a player that has averaged .75 points a game over the last 3 seasons is worth more then 6-7 million/year in a flat cap world.

Miller might want to play center but he is better utilized as a winger, especially when Petey is in the line-up.

The LTIR situation is fluid, this may all be for nothing if Beagle returns. I don't see a situation where Vancouver will re-instate Ferland, he is better off stepping away from the game to ensure he can live a somewhat healthy life with his young family.

Agreed, there will be other goalie options, that's why i proposed a second rounder as the price to take on Holtby...
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 12, 2021 at 4:09 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 28, 2020 at 7:19 p.m.
Thread: Keep Jack happy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheEarthmaster</b></div><div>I think they'd be operating under the assumption that if they protect Demko, Seattle wouldn't choose Markstrom due to his age and the amount of money and term that would be involved in a potentially five or six year contract. Where if they protect Markstrom there's a good chance Seattle takes the cheaper, cost controlled, and still good Demko. Protecting Demko gives them the chance to keep both and maybe even shed a low-term contract somewhere else.</div></div>

I like your reasoning, but if Seattle thinks they can be the next "Las Vegas Golden Knights" then they will need solid goal tending right away, leaving them really tempted to pick up JM. I don't see a situation were the Canucks don't lose a good player
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 2, 2020 at 7:06 p.m.
Thread: Cap Gymnastics
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>I've not seen a Murray trade I'd accept since winning the cup he is 32nd in SV% and 40th in GAA. Georgiev is a back up if he stays in NY and Shesterkin's play has shown that and that why a 2nd and Hirose is the highest I go for him. If Demko is so good why trade him? Markstrom is 30 and Domingue isn't a starter either and DiPietro has worse numbers than Jimmy Howard this season. So why move Demko unless you already know he is only just a back up.</div></div>

The reason I would entertain a Demko trade is because the Canucks would be extending Markstrom. From the perspective of asset management, I purposed that the Canucks should move Demko out before the expansion draft because I don't see a situation where he isn't picked. If they could flip him to a team who is in dire need of a goalie then maybe the Canucks can get someone who they can protect in the expansion draft.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>alwaysnextyear</b></div><div>While I agree that goalies don't have a lot of trade value in general, and there's no way DET trades Bertuzzi for Demko, saying he's a career backup is way too early to call. He might have the same trajectory as Bernier (highly touted prospect that actually became a career backup) or he could still develop into a starter. He's a 24 YO with a whopping 37 NHL games played, and most goalies don't peak until their late 20's. I'm hoping the Canucks hold onto him. Also, the Canucks were one of the worst defensive teams in the league this year, it was their offense and goalies that often got them wins.</div></div>

This is a great point, I've watched the Canucks give up the most high end scoring chances all year yet still win games off the stellar play of both our goalies. I think there is value in Demko, but my main question was how much value did he have to a team in dire need of any sort of improvement.... I can honestly say I didn't pay much attention to the 17-49-5 wings so i didn't put much stock into Bertuzzi, which was obviously naive of myself.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 2, 2020 at 2:51 p.m.
Thread: Cap Gymnastics
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>Bernier at 31 had about the same numbers as Demko playing on the worst team in the league.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Probably nothing as i see Detroit having zero interest in Thatcher Demko, If i'm Yzerman i'm looking at either Georgiev or possibly Matt Murray if either are moved. Short term possibly Halak. Until our kids are ready.</div></div>

I understand that Demko's numbers don't pop off yet, but looking at how he has excelled in every league he has played in, he shows that he has what it takes to become a starting goaltender. But if Detroit isn't interested then that's fine. Other than Bertuzzi, i don't see anything that would peak the Canucks interest either.

What is the ask for Georgiev or Murray? and does Detroit have anything that NYR or PITT would want?..
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 2, 2020 at 2:33 p.m.
Thread: Cap Gymnastics
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>:laugh :laugh Bertuzzi for Demko, Demko is nothing but a career backup goalie at best, Sorry they've very little value. And Bertuzzi will command at least 5 x 5.5 doubt he signs that low.</div></div>

Thanks for the input, I wasn't sure how much Bertuzzi would cost in his next contract, i thought a bridge deal on a new team might be something conceivable. In this situation i could afford to give him another 925K in a bridge type contract. Obviously you think the trade wouldn't even get done if it was just Demko so i appreciate you're input, but I personally think that Demko has the potential to be a starting goaltender sooner rather than later. Maybe the Canucks need to add for this trade to happen, would a pick and a prospect get it done? example: 2021 3rd &amp; Kole Lind? Or what would Detroit have that the Canucks should consider in a trade with Demko?
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 21, 2020 at 3:18 p.m.
Thread: Does This Make Sense for Next Year
There is a lot to digest here,
1. A.Pietrangelo will need to be signed longer then 4 years, the 9 million is probably a good guess on what he is worth.
2. J.Markstrom will want more then 4 million a year over 2 years, he's reportedly asking for 5-6 years north of 6 million
3. Trading L.Eriksson is going to be extremely hard, especially with the current price tag to send a contract with a 6 million cap hit for the next two years. this conversation starts with a 1st rounder with an A prospect. i could see Demko being moved with Eriksson to a team that has space and needs a goalie.
4. Trading S.Baertschi will again cost more then a 4th rounder..... if we ship out a 4th then expect to trade Juolevi or an equivalent type of prospect.
5. this is minor but i don't believe Sutter ever won a cup..

I'm all over the Canucks going all in and bolstering the team to be a true contender, but we're going to have to give up big assets to shed some of this money.