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Forum: NHL TradesThu at 9:58 am

Thread: (COL/MIN) - Cole for Pateryn

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JayTea</b></div><div>Then I guess we haven't seen that in years because he's been nothing but a 6th D on Minnesota who quickly gets exposed when forced to play up in their lineup. Cole isn't much better, but he is definitely better.

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Maybe not look at stats where both players had outlier seasons. Pateryn had a bad injury riddled season, while Cole just had a career best season. I know its a 3 year scale, but ignoring this year will help show how good they really are.

Look at his 16-19 stats, Pateryn was an elite defensive defenseman
Read this: https://t.co/efIwh8vyFA?amp=1

Forum: NHL TradesThu at 9:51 am

Thread: (COL/MIN) - Cole for Pateryn

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_Habs_fan</b></div><div>Well, you’re wrong since Ian Cole is clearly better</div></div>

But Im not wrong

Forum: NHL TradesWed at 10:23 pm

Thread: (COL/MIN) - Cole for Pateryn

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_Habs_fan</b></div><div>How, also most of CapFriendly disagrees</div></div>

I do not care about what most of cap friendly thinks. I know what I see. And I see a better defenseman in Greg Pateryn

Forum: NHL TradesWed at 10:22 pm

Thread: (COL/MIN) - Cole for Pateryn

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JayTea</b></div><div>I don't think it's possible to use the word fleece in any deal with Pateryn being what your team receives.</div></div>

You are underestimating how good a healthy Greg Pateryn is

Forum: NHL TradesWed at 8:53 am

Thread: (COL/MIN) - Cole for Pateryn

Easy win for Colorado. Sakic just fleeced Guerin

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 13 at 11:30

Thread: Dubois wants to be traded asap

You gotta add at least a 1st round pick in that trade along with Monahan. Maybe a guy like Bennett as well

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 13 at 11:29

Thread: What if Point and Keller switched situations

Keller would get demoted to the 2nd line. The Lightning would struggle mightily without their superstar centre. Stamkos is good, but hes noo longer an effective centre. Wing is where he fits. I love Cirelli, but I dont think he can replace Point at all. Neither can Keller

Arizona would get an immediate scoring boost and spark of energy who is extremely dynamic offensively. While Tampa gets a meh 2nd line winger

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 12 at 12:36

Thread: So lemme get this straight

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SmugTkachuk</b></div><div>Kylington is bad and will be bad after a year on the taxi squad or spending the year scratched. Sbisa belongs on a taxi squad and can come in at the drop of a hat to play in an emergency, can't say the same for Kylington. Every team in the league has a young d man that's a project no point in taking on more.</div></div>

LOL

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 11 at 9:38

Thread: how many wins 56 games

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Islesforthecup</b></div><div>Sorry at this point connor is elite hes just on a team with a few elite forwards where hes overshadowed</div></div>

lol no. he gets carried by Schiefele on offense and is a complete disaster on defense

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 10 at 7:27

Thread: How many games do they win

Maybe 10

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 10 at 7:26

Thread: how many wins 56 games

Aside from Coots and maybe Bratt, this team has no defense. Josi-Carlson is an unreal offensive pair that will dominate every shift, but will struggle defensively
Goaltending should be alright as long as Bishop is healthy

Should be a 1st round exit. Lacks top end forwards/wingers. No elite forward aside from Couturier

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 10 at 7:18

Thread: Top 15 at each position

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>That was due to Joel Edmundson, his numbers without the pylon were right where they always were. He's still an elite DFD</div></div>

His 3 most common d-partners last year were Edmundson, Gardiner and Slavin
The partner that Pesce had the best xGA/60 was Joel Edmundson

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 8 at 12:55

Thread: Top 15 at each position

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jeuck75</b></div><div>Makar >>>>> Letang, Fox, etc

Makar should be #1 for RD</div></div>

I can see an argument for that first statement, but its close. And completely disagree with the 2nd one

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 8 at 12:33

Thread: Top 15 at each position

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>revaze15</b></div><div>I find Muzzin makes bad decisions in the defensive end too often for the caliber of player he is, I started to get nervous when he got the puck in the defensive end towards the end of last season.

I could also make a fair argument for almost every player you put below Gallagher on how they are better.</div></div>

Muzzin was a beast in transition last year and at moving the puck, you dont need to be worried about him.

What arguments do you have against Gallagher aside from points?

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 8 at 12:32

Thread: who says no other than Nylander if he could lol

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>He is absolutely good but in the extremism world we live in, if enough people say he's the best ever, than he's the best ever. And if enough people say someone sucks then everyone thinks he sucks. On top of that, and you sir are absolutely guilty of this, everyone is either terrific or they suck there is no middle ground. Jones is absolutely a terrific player. He certainly isn't as valuable as many on here think but he is definitely a #1 defenceman.</div></div>

I never said he sucks. I said he is an average defenseman who gets overrated by most fans and TV people

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 8 at 12:26

Thread: who says no other than Nylander if he could lol

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>He goes to Toronto and he stops being such a darling on this site.</div></div>

Idk why people see him as a top tier defenseman. Ive watched him play, hes not even that good. He just plays big minutes so people assume hes good

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 8 at 12:25

Thread: who says no other than Nylander if he could lol

The LEafs would never make this trade or give that contract to Jones. Hes so overrated

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 8 at 12:22

Thread: Top 15 at each position

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>revaze15</b></div><div>I can't say Gallagher is the 5th best RW in the league and Muzzin is way too high</div></div>

Muzzin's game has basically no holes. He carried the Leafs blueline this year. Gets overshadowed because he plays on a team with all these other big name guys

Gallagher is similar to Muzzin in the case that hes good at basically everything 5v5. Yeah he isnt good on the PP but I think thats probably a system thing. He doesnt get a ton of points, but his underlying analytics are great

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 8 at 12:20

Thread: Top 15 at each position

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>Not 4th. Maybe like 10th or something.

He didn't play a ton of C last season.</div></div>

He was the centre on his line. Just didnt take the faceoffs

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 8 at 12:17

Thread: Top 15 at each position

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>Hot take 101... sign up here</div></div>

Point out the wrong. Guentzel was 5th among all LWs in P/GP and had good defensive stats

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 8 at 12:15

Thread: Top 15 at each position

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sabres923</b></div><div>Fair.
I was just looking at Dahlins RAPM chart, and Evolving hockey player card he was so much better in his rookie year. Do you think it’s fair to say he was a top 15 LD before Krueger basically ruined him?</div></div>

Probably top 15. Hes close to Heiskanen. He still has the potential to be a future Norris winner, I just dont know if he will win anything in Buffalo

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 8 at 12:09

Thread: Top 15 at each position

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sabres923</b></div><div>I have a hard time believing Couturier is better than Eichel. Also Crosby wasn’t really that good last year.</div></div>

Eichel was a bit better offensively, but Coots destroyed him on defense.
Crosby was a beast in 18-19 and had an injury riddled year. I wouldn't bet against him

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 8 at 12:06

Thread: Top 15 at each position

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07</b></div><div>Guentzel is too high and ovi too low. I don’t even like Ovi</div></div>

Guentzel when healthy was a top 10 winger. Ovechkin has given up everything to chase the goals record and it shows, he still leads in goals, but is bad at basically everything aside from shooting

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 8 at 12:04

Thread: Top 15 at each position

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>Pettersson being in fourth is uh.... surprising.</div></div>

Where would you rank him?

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 8 at 12:03

Thread: Top 15 at each position

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_K</b></div><div>I like this list for the most part. Not sure if Benn should be that high at this point and I'd have Miro up a few ranks. I'd probably have 3 or 4 guys ahead of Rielly at LHD but I tend to like the more well-rounded guys. And I think I have Matthews and EP flipped and I'd push Geno above Eichel but the rest of the centers look like a fair opinion. Nice job.</div></div>

I probably wouldve had Benn near the bottom of the list before the playoffs, but I think he showed that he can still bring it during the run. Rielly had an injury riddled season. If you just want to base it off of this year, hes probably not top 10. But when healthy I think Rielly can be that good

I can definitely see Geno over Eichel, but I would get absolutely slaughtered for that take lol

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