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Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 9:33 pm

Thread: Where to go post McCann extension

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Hornqvist has a full NTC, Fat chance he waives for a rebuilding team in Detroit.</div></div>

I always do something like that without even thinking and I hate it

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 11:28 am

Thread: Retooling while keeping the young players

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yeeeeeeeeeetttt</b></div><div>Yeah probably. Murray, jj and a 2022 first for tierney?</div></div>

I’ve had that thought before not sure if they trade a first three years in a row though.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 11:17 am

Thread: Retooling while keeping the young players

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yeeeeeeeeeetttt</b></div><div>i mean i would think you would get offers that would just be straight up better for Murray, rather than offer him to the sens as a cap dump sweetener in exchange for a career 6th/7th dman. Id probably agrees to this deal in principle though, could tweak it later.</div></div>

I just think that getting rid of johnson is way more important that cashing out on Murray. There’s not a lot of holes on the Pens roster outside of 3C and 3RD.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 10:57 am

Thread: Retooling while keeping the young players

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>royle9</b></div><div>All the QVISTS for CGY I see</div></div>

Qvistception.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 12 at 10:26

Thread: Test 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins

This is so bad that it’s realistic.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 12 at 9:25

Thread: Redo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sidstick87</b></div><div>Is this for real? Or are u just doing this bc of how bad GMJR has been & u are making fun of him??</div></div>

The truth is somewhere in the middle of both of those statements 😂

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 12 at 4:58

Thread: Trying to get younger

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>leafs101</b></div><div>Lol you literally want our entire 3rd line</div></div>

That’s a real bizarre coincidence on my end...I’d also be fine with switching Engvall to someone like Nic Petan.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 9 at 11:42

Thread: Murray trade and another top 9 F

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brgh4life</b></div><div>Power play specialist? At 5v5 play he had the same amount of Goals as Tavares, Kuznetsov, Svechnikov... He finished 155th in scoring among forwards at 5v5 this season. He is producing at a top 6 rate at 5v5 and on the power play. Trading him for nothing means you have to replace that production.</div></div>

You replace the production with Kapanen and having Zucker for a full year helps too.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 9 at 11:32

Thread: Murray trade and another top 9 F

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brgh4life</b></div><div>My question is why are you trading a productive player for scraps? Look at shot metrics, scoring chances, goal and point production. He is still producing at a 2nd line rate. Why are we moving him for nothing in this proposal? I don't get it.</div></div>

They’re not trading him for nothing. What I do when I can’t come up with deals is just throw them on placeholder teams. He makes $5.3M to be a powerplay specialist who anchors the third line. Zucker and Guentzel can both play net front better than him. I don’t get what’s so hard to understand here.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 8 at 6:50

Thread: Murray trade and another top 9 F

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sqm918</b></div><div>He’s worth around the same as McCann. This team looks really solid too. Only question is what will it take to get rid of Horny and JJ.</div></div>

I think a horny trade will look something like Gudbranson where you get a late pick and a career AHLer. As for JJ god only knows because you have the people who think someone will take him for a pick or you have the people who think it’ll take Poulin or Legare on top of a high draft pick.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 8 at 6:47

Thread: Murray trade and another top 9 F

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brgh4life</b></div><div>How does Hornqvist not fit this team? Dude still produced at a top 6 rate, is killer on the power play, and routinely finishes with very high defensive metrics. He is still a damn good player. Ditching him for nothing makes no sense.</div></div>

Oh no like they’ll get a return I just have no idea how to go about trading him with a full NTC.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 8 at 4:25

Thread: Murray trade and another top 9 F

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>weber6</b></div><div>Overpayment for Virtanen</div></div>

Where do you think his value is? I know a ton of Vancouver people are super extra with him in terms of value.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 8 at 10:41

Thread: Stuff

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>Sounds very encouraging depending on what sources listen to. Guys like Friedman and such like to suggest a trade is still likely because creating speculation is their job but if listen to Holland he’s been consistent from the start saying his priority is to bring back. My guess is jp is waiting to find out when the season starts before putting his name on a deal.</div></div>

That’s big if they can pull him back in especially with how dangerous they were when Yamamoto began to establish himself.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 8 at 10:26

Thread: Stuff

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Yojimbo</b></div><div>Hagelin ($1.25M ret) for Bjugstad, 6th
Capitals do not need Bjugstad, nor have the cap space for this. They decline

McCann for Puljujarvi, 3rd.
Make it a 2nd. Puljujarvi has no NHL value, no matter how hard Oiler fans try to say otherwise.</div></div>

Scrapping the Bjugstad thing and prob the Puljujarvi thing as well.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 8 at 10:07

Thread: Stuff

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>Extremely unlikely oilers let go of jp that easily after spending a year working on bringing back.</div></div>

Are they even remotely close to bringing him back though? I agree it would be huge to have him back but is it even realistic at this point?

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 8 at 10:02

Thread: Stuff

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KakkoForMauriceRichardAward</b></div><div>Pretty big overpay for Murray. Remove the 2nd at least</div></div>

Did Murray and McCann for this package a few days ago and wanted to see what would happen with just Murray alone. Gonna wait to see what other Leafs people think.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 8 at 10:01

Thread: Stuff

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>Oilers easily pass.</div></div>

I’m cool with removing the third but I don’t see how the oilers don’t want a solid top 9 C/W when they’re thin at bottom 6 center to begin with.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 8 at 9:59

Thread: Stuff

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kalopsia</b></div><div>No way in hell the Caps take on Bjugstad <em>and</em> retain on Hagelin. If the Caps are trading Hags it's probably because they need the cap space, and this does the opposite and doesn't even fill a need for them.</div></div>

Someone did this exact thing a few days ago in a Caps ACGM and received praise for it.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 6 at 9:11

Thread: Murray to Toronto

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Yojimbo</b></div><div>Kerfoot, Holl, 2nd, Liljegren is a better starting point.</div></div>

I’d love that tbh

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 6 at 7:58

Thread: Murray to Toronto

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Yojimbo</b></div><div>Kerfoot, Holl, 4th for Murray, McCann

This isn't even good return for just Murray.</div></div>

What if the 4th is switched to a 2nd and Toronto sends a prospect?

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 6 at 4:40

Thread: Murray to Toronto

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caerii</b></div><div>That's Rutherford trying to dump Johnson, not Guerin trying to acquire him lol</div></div>

Either way it’s been attempted twice in a year.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 6 at 4:36

Thread: Murray to Toronto

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caerii</b></div><div>Link your source</div></div>

Tweet from @Puck_Report2 on 8/24/20
Michael Russo: “It’s believed Minnesota Wild GM Bill Guerin attempted early in his 1st season to acquire Tristan Jarry in the original Jason Zucker trade. That being the case, most likely Stalock would have gone to #LetsGoPens and #MNWild would have had to take Jack Johnson back”

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 6 at 4:31

Thread: Murray to Toronto

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EccE</b></div><div>When Wild was willing to take him, there was a different GM in charge. And I sure hope we won't get him.</div></div>

Guerin wanted to do Jarry and Johnson for Zucker and Stalock just a few months ago.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 6 at 3:56

Thread: Murray to Toronto

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DonkeyLips</b></div><div>The pens will get a 1st for Matt Murray.</div></div>

I think so too but do you still get one back if you get roster players back too?

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 6 at 3:52

Thread: Murray to Toronto

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EccE</b></div><div>I mean, statistically, Donato was one of the most under-used players in the league. His underlying stats said that he should have been used for a scoring role and that he could have excelled there.

I like Björkqvist, but is he a blue-chip prospect? Absolutely not. Also, 2nd round pick for a (possibly) contending team is not that great. Johnson, on the other hand, is a total disaster with a horrible contract.

I understand that the Pens don't want to do this if Johnson gets taken out but the Wild won't do it if it is like that.</div></div>

The big thing missing in all of this is the fact that Minnesota has been willing to take Johnson on twice already. While I agree it won’t be for Donato I still think there’s possibility for it to happen.

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