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I'm assuming this discussion pops up again because of Dreger's report, where he <em>explicitly stated</em> Jenner isn't available. Welcome to the never-ending discussion.

The long: he's a captain on a sweetheart deal with term who's producing well with a unique, valuable skillset. The keys to his value are:
1) he's a decent 2C, great 3C, which every playoff team needs
2) He's on an amazing deal that every playoff team could accommodate
3) His great deal has term, so he's not a rental, which every playoff team with aspirations of competing beyond just this year loves.
4) His current team signed him to said sweetheart deal specifically to keep him around, and has no desire to move him.

Each of those bump his value up since you have to convince Columbus to move him, then beat out every other contender's offer. It's not like he's a depressed asset we have to move that only has a handful of landing spots. The argument is never "Jenner is one of the best centers in the league, pay us for him!", it's "Jenner has a huge market and fills a need for tons of teams, and that spikes his value regardless of his (still good) production, that's what you're overpaying for."

He's a Horvat style player who wins faceoffs like Lindholm and scores goals like Pavelski, but you can have him for this year and the next two at current Evan Bouchard money if you make a good enough offer to convince Columbus it's worth moving their unicorn.

You'll see people argue anything ranging from "expiring 3C UFA with 15 points" offers to "star 1C for the rest of time" demands. I think in reality, the Horvat deal + ??? is a decent comp: 1st, roster player/pick, good prospect. If Columbus deals him, we need a legitimate shot at replacing him soon coming back, so center prospects are preferred. Because of the deal, roster player/pick -&gt; 2nd-equivalent, and good prospect -&gt; top prospect.

So, IMO, it takes: 1st, 2nd, A+/top prospect to land him.

For Pittsburgh specifically, I don't think there's an A+ prospect in the organization, and we <em>definitely </em>don't want to see him in Pittsburgh ever (main rival in-division), so the price goes up more...so 2024 2nd, 2025 1st, and 2026 1st, all unprotected.