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Forum: NHL TradesJul. 23, 2021 at 5:39 p.m.
Forum: NHL TradesJul. 23, 2021 at 5:34 p.m.
Forum: NHL SigningsApr. 8, 2021 at 7:34 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>People like to laugh at Benning before all else.

<strong>Lets counter some arguments:</strong>

- they kept pearson but not toffoli: yes. We have room next year. There was no room last year.

- now there's no cap for the big RFAs: benning has proven that he is very good at dealing with RFAs, assuming 7x3 for both players, there's still plenty of cap to work with. More if Loui is bought out and Beagle rides LTIR (his injury seems bad)

- pearson isn't worth this money in this market: Probably not, but how much of an overpay is it? A quarter million? He was a huge asset for the team last year and has taken a step back like everyone else. His impact on improving Horvat's game is alone worth it. This is a locker room guy to the same extent as Tanev or Markstrom.


tldr: this is a bit more money than I was wanting, but not to the level of laughing at. even if he plays the 3rd line, he's the first player we have had in that role that looks like a decent bottom sixer in some time. Good signing? Nah.... but it ain't a bad one either.</div></div>


<strong>Lets counter your counter arguments as well:</strong>


<strong>OG</strong> - Why keep Pearson but not Toffoli? <strong>(Correct)</strong>.
<strong>YOU</strong> - We have room next year. There was no room last year <strong>(Wrong)</strong>.
<strong>FACTS</strong> - They had room for Schmidt ($6,000,000) + Holtby ($4,300,000) + Virtanen ($2,600,000).

<strong>OG</strong> - Pearson isn't worth this money in this market <strong>(Correct)</strong>.
<strong>YOU</strong> - Probably not <strong>(Good start ... should've stopped there)</strong>.
<strong>FACTS</strong> - And he's especially not worth it for an extremely cap-crunched team with their 2 best players unsigned.

<strong>OG</strong> - Now there's no cap for the big RFAs <strong>(Correct)</strong>.
<strong>YOU</strong> - Benning has proven that he is very good at dealing with RFAs <strong>(Wrong)</strong>.
<strong>FACTS</strong> - Virtanen was just overpaid + Demko's cap-hit is 2-4 times larger than every comparable (and all had a higher career SV%).

$5,000,000 x 5 years (age 25) | after 60 NHL games | career 0.911 SV% | <strong>Thatcher Demko</strong>
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$1,300,000 x 1 years (age 25) | after 60 NHL games | career 0.911 SV% | <strong>Linus Ullmark</strong>
$1,500,000 x 3 years (age 24) | after 50 NHL games | career 0.924 SV% | <strong>Juuse Saros</strong>
$1,600,000 x 2 years (age 26) | after 40 NHL games | career 0.928 SV% | <strong>Jack Campbell</strong>
$2,400,000 x 2 years (age 24) | after 80 NHL games | career 0.913 SV% | <strong>Alex Georgiev</strong>
$2,800,000 x 3 years (age 24) | after 70 NHL games | career 0.916 SV% | <strong>Mac Blackwood</strong>


<strong>TLDR</strong> - Get wrecked by the facts son.
Forum: NHL SigningsApr. 8, 2021 at 6:51 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>LMAO

Jim Benning does it again hahahaha</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LindyRuffRider</b></div><div>Jim loves his mediocre middle 6 guys.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CLR</b></div><div>Another bottom 6 player paid too much for VAN. Toffoli makes 4,25m$....</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>So which RFA is Vancouver losing cause this spells cap trouble .</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>doogiski</b></div><div>God damnit Jim, stop overvaluing the intangibles in ageing forwards.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Saskleaf</b></div><div>To play in Vancouver's bottom 6, the first digit of your cap hit must be 3.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Emoon</b></div><div>Why? He'll be pushed down by Hoglander and Podkolzin, good chance he ends up as another poor bottom 6 contract.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>faulkmydzingel</b></div><div>At least it wasn't 6 Million</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AndrewLadd</b></div><div>Tyler Toffoli makes like 1 mil more lol</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheNorthStar</b></div><div>You'd think Benning would learn after last offseason...</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_Habs_fan</b></div><div>I personally think it’s an okay deal Pearson is a good middle 6 player and it’s a good cap hit</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>yep, now lets wait for the Petterson for Manson trade lul</div></div>


<strong>Tanner Pearson</strong> ($3,250,000)

<strong>33</strong> Games Played
<strong>06</strong> Goals
<strong>05</strong> Assists
<strong>11</strong> Points
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<strong>14</strong> Goals / 82 Games
<strong>27</strong> Points / 82 Games



<strong>Tyler Toffoli</strong> ($4,250,000)

<strong>33</strong> Games Played
<strong>19</strong> Goals
<strong>11</strong> Assists
<strong>30</strong> Points
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<strong>47</strong> Goals / 82 Games
<strong>75</strong> Points / 82 Games